Say Goodbye To Alshon Jeffery

Enasic · Feb 15, 2017

remydat said:
I'm not seeing the problem here. If the Bears are willing to do 13 and 30 and it's really 14 and 35 that Jeffery wants, they would be stupid not to be able to bridge that gap and get a deal done. Just franchise him and work it out.

Which more than likely means, those numbers are hog-wash. Or....Alshon really doesn't want to be here. I'm guessing both things are true.

1000ftditka! · Feb 15, 2017

Franchise him...."round #2"......and then trade.....if no trade steps forward.....wash your hands of him at the end of the 2017 season.

O.K. Here's a fun exercise...In this situation with Alshon Jeffrey..

WWTPD?!......."What Would the Pats Do?!"

Yeah...how would Belichick and Kraft play this? Bottom line.....you don't let him leave without recovering as much value as possible. No net loss of value.

Let's see how Pace plays this.

remydat · Feb 15, 2017

Enasic said:
Which more than likely means, those numbers are hog-wash. Or....Alshon really doesn't want to be here. I'm guessing both things are true.

There is no real benefit for him signing before the Bears make the call on whether to franchise him or not unless they meet his terms outright.

BringBackDitka54 · Feb 15, 2017

Anyone who wants to draft a QB at 3, but also wants to let AJ walk is an idiot.

Washington · Feb 16, 2017

The only way Chi can keep Alshon is to offer him a contract WAY above market value. That is not a good approach for a guy who can't seem to play 16 games a year and had a stupid PED issue in a contract year = stupidity. He does not want to play for a team without an NFL quality QB. He holds all the cards here unfortunately. Tagging him again simply keeps him here one more year but if the team looked like it was on the upswing Alshon could possibly change his thinking over the course of that year under Chi control. Either way, an offer above market value would be needed. I don't see that happening this year.

Washington · Feb 16, 2017

Rory Sparrow said:
Agree with everything, but there really isn't any reason the Bears couldn't offer Alshon an above market value deal. They should have plenty of cap space if they get rid of Cutler, and its not like they have many other good, expensive players on the roster. The problem is the way that Pace has handled this from the start has done irreparable damage, so now the Bears are in a "lose-lose" position.

I don't disagree with anything there either. The question is, do you want to reward a guy who most feel does not want to be here, who seems to have some medical issues in the last couple of years that could be on-going, who hasn't put up the quality of numbers expected of him since the true #1 WR was jettisoned, and has proven to not be the sharpest tack in the box? He basically would only be staying due to the high price tag = low incentive to perform. As you stated, Chi is really in a lose-lose position on this. Alshon holds all the cards. I personally am on the fence with this one. It will be easy to Monday morning QB any decision Pace makes.

WindyCity · Feb 16, 2017

If he doesn't want to be here then he doesn't want to be here.

If I played WR, in addition to the money, I would like to see who my QB is going to be. That guy has a huge impact on my earning potential and ability to reach my bonuses etc.

The Bears have shit QBs.

Washington · Feb 16, 2017

WindyCity said:
If he doesn't want to be here then he doesn't want to be here.

If I played WR, in addition to the money, I would like to see who my QB is going to be. That guy has a huge impact on my earning potential and ability to reach my bonuses etc.

The Bears have shit QBs.

Totally agree. I have said the same thing about the QBs many times questioning why AJ would want to sign with the Bears. He is in complete control and will get paid well by a team he really wants to play for.

Rise · Feb 16, 2017

The Bears don't pay or keep offensive playmakers unless they are a RB or Cutler. It is a huge reason why they never win. The team and fans constantly tear down these players then ship them out of town either for nothing or scraps. It's an ongoing culture that has crossed regimes.

Off the top of my head:
Jones: Getting old, not needed we have Bennet!
Berrian: Just a speedster, replaceable!
Olsen: Doesn't fit scheme, can't break tackles.
Marshall: A headcase!
Bennett: A headcase!
Forte: Old! (Howard has proven this move to be surprisingly ok)
Jeffery: Can't stay healthy, not worth it!

You can't win this way.

didshereallysaythat · Feb 16, 2017

Rory Sparrow said:
In a dumb way, if Pace had signed Jeffery to a long-term deal prior to 2016, and Jeffery ended up getting hurt/PEDs in 2016, at least Pace could 'justify' his decision with "How was I to know this would happen?". I think now, with Jeffery's soft tissue injury issues and PED suspension already known, Pace will be wrong with whatever decision he makes.

Do you accept that justification with the White pick?

mattb78 · Feb 16, 2017

Rory Sparrow said:
the way that Pace has handled this from the start has done irreparable damage

What irreparable damage was done by using the franchise tag? (Pace arrived in Jeffrey's contract year in which Jeffrey only played 9 games)

mecha · Feb 16, 2017

Jeffery is the best receiver the team drafted itself possibly ever. his best years were playing opposite to Marshall. Marshall got wiped out along with the entire great offensive players. while I can praise Pace's drafting, and can give him a pass on the FAs, ever since he walked in the door it looks like he's doing bad business with the pieces that were already in place. you honestly mean to tell me there was absolutely no way to work out whatever issues Marshall or Bennett had as human beings to just play football once a week? you really couldn't keep Forte in even a backup/transitional role for a couple years?

and more bad business with Jeffery, Rory's waste of everyone's time point. White's not doing anything, Wilson NEVER sees the field, and Meredith is the only bright spot in the entire corp. why are you pushing Jeffery out the door? why are you creating another need, like was done when he reached very high to draft White in the first place, when you have a commodity that has proven to make some impressive catches, just to potentially draft another scrub like White? that's 2 misses when you had great players already in place.

if you want to criticize Ryan Pace for anything at all, that's the prime place to start. I'm not saying they were an all-pro unit top to bottom when Trestman was here, but they were certainly the best collection of offensive players this team has seen in a long time, and they _all_ got jettisoned for very silly reasons.

mattb78 · Feb 16, 2017

When you are rebuilding a team you usually don't try and keep 30+ year old receivers that are team cancers. There is a reason now that 2 teams traded him.

Getting rid of that older talent is why we have drafted early the last few years and it was done so for that very reason. We now have some good young players and plenty of cap room.

Pace had a total rebuild here guys. Offense, Defense and oh by the way, get a franchise QB while you are at it.

Jeffrey wants to be the highest paid WR in the league and that is hard to do with a player with an injury history and a PED violation history.

I agree they should slightly overpay. But you can't ridiculously overpay for Alshon's services. Everybody sucks the Patriots dicks but when we stand up to a player and don't get bent over by his agent people bitch about that to.

Bearfanfromnewjersey · Feb 16, 2017

Alshon is a great player but he is always hurt and unreliable. If that is his offer i am totally behind that

BringBackDitka54 · Feb 16, 2017

Rory Sparrow said:
But even in the case of Forte, I think the Bears would have been better with a Howard/Forte tandem than a Howard/Langford tandem. What I don't get in all of this is you'd think jettisoning guys like Marshall and Bennett would signal a "total rebuild", but it has yet to happen. Cutler is still the only QB under contract. Bennett was replaced by an older Zach Miller. Marshall's replacement is basically already out the door (Jeffery). Its like the Bears proactively got rid of all their good players, but continued on with a "win now" philosophy, with the end result being a 3-13 season.

This 100%.

shoopster · Feb 16, 2017

I can't believe they bothered offering him anything at all . . . It will be a blessing in disguise if he turns them down . . .

vabearsfan15 · Feb 16, 2017

I believe Jeffery wouldn't get paid more than 13+ mil a year if he were to test FA. He has been injured quite a lot and it would be hard to believe that a team would want to take such a high risk move when quite a number of good wr have come out the draft in recent years. At the same time I don't want to take the risk of letting him hit FA. We need him just as much if not more than any other team who would want his services. We need to lock him up!

We should have plenty of cap space so this shouldn't matter but If it comes down to having to draft a QB to save money rather than opting to pay Garrappollo, than do it.

anotheridiot · Feb 17, 2017

satchice said:
If the Bears let him walk for the difference of 1 Mil per year they are stupid.. You have to pay what the market is.. last year the top FA WR all got 14 per so this year the top FA should be a little north of that... sorry but business is business..

Last year the elevated numbers of a genuine freak in Calvin Johnson raised everyones salaries. 25% raise to franchise alshon again is over 18 million. Sorry, the PED's ruined his negotiation power. Nobody knows how long he was using them and what he will be without them.

Enasic · Feb 17, 2017

vabearsfan15 said:
I believe Jeffery wouldn't get paid more than 13+ mil a year if he were to test FA. He has been injured quite a lot and it would be hard to believe that a team would want to take such a high risk move when quite a number of good wr have come out the draft in recent years. At the same time I don't want to take the risk of letting him hit FA. We need him just as much if not more than any other team who would want his services. We need to lock him up!

We should have plenty of cap space so this shouldn't matter but If it comes down to having to draft a QB to save money rather than opting to pay Garrappollo, than do it.

What the Bears need more than anything, are players who are consistently available to play, whose production matches their salary. Alshon for two seasons in a row has missed a number of games and hasn't eclipsed 900 yards in those two seasons. He had two seasons to prove he's worth the salt that he's asking, and two seasons in a row he's disappointed. I'd offer him a fair deal...and by fair, I mean slightly over what his production shown he's worth...but if he wants the moon, I'd be the first to escort him to the rocket ship and send his ass off.

nc0gnet0 · Feb 17, 2017

It's amazing how many fools want to pay this guy 17 mil based on a blip on the radar in 2014.

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