AussieBear
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These came out a few days ago.. anyone excited?
Aye. Building a Ryzen rig for my office/chillax machine in the next month. I just hope ecc memory prices don't spike upwards. Dunno how many will get built, but I know I'm in it for at least one.
FYI, nearly every AMD CPU support ECC memory. Not something that matters for someone who does most of their computing on 'the cloud' or just a gamer. But for people who develop and produce, ecc is a lifesaver. One of the worst kept secrets to building a true workstation that requires the utmost data integrity on the cheap.
These came out a few days ago.. anyone excited?
Yeah, nobody is saying you need to buy it if your system is already good. I've been waiting for so long, and I'm not an AMD fanboy, 4 of my 6 systems(in use, not just old shit laying around) are intel. But that could change quickly. I just prefer AMD over Intel if all things are equal because I don't like Intel's practices. Would have bought a Skylake a few months ago if it weren't for all the Kernel bugs that affects linux users like me.
I just sold my CPU/board/ram off my office machine. Xeon 2667v3 Haswell, 32gb DDR4(ECC). I'll have enough for 3 faster Ryzen systems that use less power with better overall board specs. But I only need one LOL. Maybe new HTPC as well, but I want to wait for that one.
Single die CPU Cores don't clock independently. They either clock to scale(together or at ratio of each other) or they can be syncronously disabled, but they still use power and generate heat.
Where you could have different clocks for cores, if a CPU was constructed with multiple dies, and each die represented a single block. This design has been done away with for a number of reasons, mainly because the AMD64_x86 architecture is multilayer compatible for cache and asynchronous computing (which is why we have GPU cores and FPGA/controllers in AMD and Intel 64bit APU/SoCs). All of that is so extraordinarily complex to line up layers with caching for each independent die, it increases costs by factors of 2-8x what it would be with a single large die.
Anyways, single threading should be dead. Software multithreading has been possible since 4x86 CPUs. It's terrible that so many programs still are not compiled correctly or are designed to ignore hardware spectrums. The single thread performance of Ryzen and future Intel CPUs(Intel is going this way as well) is plenty good enough and the few demanding games that aren't good with multithreading will releases patches that improve performance over time.
Sure looks like it's possible to individually clock the cores. Not voltage, of course, but clock speeds. Am I missing something?
I agree, there is a lot of hype. If I were in your situation, I would be perfectly happy with the system you bought and built. Odds are, you're not going to notice even if you get another machine. Money best spent in the future, not now.
Like I said, the main reason I'm excited, well, #1, I preordered so at some extent I'm going to defend my purchase(assuming all things at least function as they aught to), but #2, ECC CPU/Boards are stupid expensive when you want to go the Intel route, something I would say 49/50 of the builders don't concern themselves with. In my opinion, ECC should be the only kind of memory and all CPUs and controllers should just support it from now on out. Especially with the amount of encryption that is being used and hardware errata that is just swept under the rug.