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This thread is specifically to go over the potential head coaching candidates. Who fits well on our team and why. There is a wall of text here, but please just skip it and let's discuss who you think will suit the Bears best as head coach ...

MY CRAZY LONG DRAGGED ON THOUGHTS:

I'm pretty sure everybody here understands that John Fox was never hired to be the coach that would lead the Bears to the promised land, but he was an important hire none-the-less. John Fox was hired for one purpose and that was to fix the culture of the team that had gone off the wayside during a time of rebuilding. It was understood that Ryan Pace had inherited a team that was short on talent and was at that time as dysfunctional as this team has ever been coming off of previous failed regimes. He knew that he had a lot of work ahead of him to build this team up from nothing, and he knew that it would take some time that results don't happen overnight. John Fox was coming off a successful run as head coach of the Denver Broncos where he had led the team to the playoffs with a playoff victory vs the Steelers with Tim Tebow as his quarterback and then he led a Peyton Manning led team into the playoffs with one SB appearance. Expectations were set a little higher than they should have been due to the state the team was in. At the end of the 2014 season it was quite clear the team needed to hire the right GM and they had to have a plan in place and Ryan Pace's plan was to build through the draft and to not sign big name free agents to big contracts. This team needed a coach who could handle himself and handle the team well during a period they knew they would not win many games in this big market city. John Fox is not being judged on wins and losses. John Fox is being judged on how the culture of the team is forming. His job has been to get the players Ryan Pace has been bringing in to blend well on the team and get the most out of the players that he can.

The Bears had a quarterback dilemma when Pace and Fox took over and the source of that problem was Jay Cutler's crippling contract. They attempted to trade him and got no takers, so they played it out and also tried out a couple guys who had been in the league for a few years to see if any of them would stick, but they didn't pan out. Cutler's crippling contract came to an end this offseason and Pace was ready to move on from him and the other quarterbacks that he tried out on the team. He had a plan this offseason and he signed Glennon and Sanchez, while drafting Mitchell Trubisky. This is what Ryan Pace has wanted in his quarterback room from day one, and he was able to make it happen. The team should continue to make strides this season to becoming relevant again, but it should be clear to all here that the team is still not looking at wins and losses as much as they are looking for further progress in all facets of the team they are building. And as this team exits the 2017 season regardless where they finish, John Fox should not be crucified for not taking this team to the playoffs through three years. He should be applauded for having the strength and guts to take on such a project as this and hopefully having been successful in the job he came here to do in order to set up for success the next guy that comes in after him. This team is looking to the future and has sacrificed trying to win in the present in order to win in the future, but who are they going to hire to help lead the team during the upcoming glory years ahead? I'm expecting that John Fox will either retire after this season or they'll allow him to coach out his contract all depending on the status of the team at the end of the season and the prospects they'll be shopping around. One thing is certain and that's that Ryan Pace has his eyes set on finding his next head coach, but again who is it going to be?

One idea that has been tossed around is that Jim Harbaugh took the Michigan job in order to hold him over until the Bears righted ship and had their team up to speed for his arrival and that's where Vic Fangio comes into play. Instead of following him to Michigan he went to the team that Harbaugh expects to join upon his return to the NFL. So here is Fangio rebuilding his defense and certainly somebody who may be communicating back and forth with Harbaugh. Then there's the Trubisky factor. This offense is getting rebuilt with good talent, as well. Jordan Howard, Kevin White, Adam Shaheen. This will be very welcoming for Harbaugh to come into, but for any head coaching candidate this would be welcoming. So is it Harbaugh? If not, who might they be looking at to fill the position? Perhaps McDaniels or Linehan? Does the next head coach need to be an offensive mind? I say yes. The head coach has to be somebody that Trubisky is going to grow with, and it's going to be crucial Ryan Pace gets this right. Discuss.
 

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I guess it kind of depends how impatient Jim is. I was rooting for them to go all the way so Harbaugh would have no regrets. I doubt that happens this season, but I'm sure he wants back into the NFL at some point. Fox is fine, but he's not dynamic and he's getting old.
 

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I'm pretty sure everybody here understands that John Fox was never hired to be the coach that would lead the Bears to the promised land, but he was an important hire none-the-less. John Fox was hired for one purpose and that was to fix the culture of the team that had gone off the wayside during a time of rebuilding. It was understood that Ryan Pace had inherited a team that was short on talent and was at that time as dysfunctional as this team has ever been coming off of previous failed regimes. He knew that he had a lot of work ahead of him to build this team up from nothing, and he knew that it would take some time that results don't happen overnight. John Fox was coming off a successful run as head coach of the Denver Broncos where he had led the team to the playoffs with a playoff victory vs the Steelers with Tim Tebow as his quarterback and then he led a Peyton Manning led team into the playoffs with one SB appearance. Expectations were set a little higher than they should have been due to the state the team was in. At the end of the 2014 season it was quite clear the team needed to hire the right GM and they had to have a plan in place and Ryan Pace's plan was to build through the draft and to not sign big name free agents to big contracts. This team needed a coach who could handle himself and handle the team well during a period they knew they would not win many games in this big market city. John Fox is not being judged on wins and losses. John Fox is being judged on how the culture of the team is forming. His job has been to get the players Ryan Pace has been bringing in to blend well on the team and get the most out of the players that he can.

The Bears had a quarterback dilemma when Pace and Fox took over and the source of that problem was Jay Cutler's crippling contract. They attempted to trade him and got no takers, so they played it out and also tried out a couple guys who had been in the league for a few years to see if any of them would stick, but they didn't pan out. Cutler's crippling contract came to an end this offseason and Pace was ready to move on from him and the other quarterbacks that he tried out on the team. He had a plan this offseason and he signed Glennon and Sanchez, while drafting Mitchell Trubisky. This is what Ryan Pace has wanted in his quarterback room from day one, and he was able to make it happen. The team should continue to make strides this season to becoming relevant again, but it should be clear to all here that the team is still not looking at wins and losses as much as they are looking for further progress in all facets of the team they are building. And as this team exits the 2017 season regardless where they finish, John Fox should not be crucified for not taking this team to the playoffs through three years. He should be applauded for having the strength and guts to take on such a project as this and hopefully having been successful in the job he came here to do in order to set up for success the next guy that comes in after him. This team is looking to the future and has sacrificed trying to win in the present in order to win in the future, but who are they going to hire to help lead the team during the upcoming glory years ahead? I'm expecting that John Fox will either retire after this season or they'll allow him to coach out his contract all depending on the status of the team at the end of the season and the prospects they'll be shopping around. One thing is certain and that's that Ryan Pace has his eyes set on finding his next head coach, but again who is it going to be?

One idea that has been tossed around is that Jim Harbaugh took the Michigan job in order to hold him over until the Bears righted ship and had their team up to speed for his arrival and that's where Vic Fangio comes into play. Instead of following him to Michigan he went to the team that Harbaugh expects to join upon his return to the NFL. So here is Fangio rebuilding his defense and certainly somebody who may be communicating back and forth with Harbaugh. Then there's the Trubisky factor. This offense is getting rebuilt with good talent, as well. Jordan Howard, Kevin White, Adam Shaheen. This will be very welcoming for Harbaugh to come into, but for any head coaching candidate this would be welcoming. So is it Harbaugh? If not, who might they be looking at to fill the position? Perhaps McDaniels or Linehan? Does the next head coach need to be an offensive mind? I say yes. The head coach has to be somebody that Trubisky is going to grow with, and it's going to be crucial Ryan Pace gets this right. Discuss.

Agree 100% with the first and third paragraph. That second paragraph is either a troll job or a Special person hijacked your account.
 

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I guess it kind of depends how impatient Jim is. I was rooting for them to go all the way so Harbaugh would have no regrets. I doubt that happens this season, but I'm sure he wants back into the NFL at some point. Fox is fine, but he's not dynamic and he's getting old.

I think if they're dead set on Harbaugh and Harbaugh likewise is set on joining the Bears that it's all a matter of time and circumstance. As of now it appears to me the Bears are setting this up to be done the right way without forcing anything. They can sit Trubisky for one or two seasons and let Glennon play for that one or two seasons, and they can have John Fox coach for one or two seasons. I believe it simply all depends on the progress of the team in 2017, and if Harbaugh is ready to leave Michigan after 2017 or if he wants to stay there for one more season after this coming season. But I'm not sure Michigan has anything to do with it. If the Bears are ready for Harbaugh, Fangio will give Harbaugh an honest answer and he'll more than likely join the Bears right then and there.

Fox has done a fine job. I have no gripes with the guy. The Bears are coming together as a team and I don't think they're the train wreck they were before Pace and Fox came here anymore, so Fox has essentially done his job to great success through two seasons but a lot of people will only look at wins and losses. The next head coach the Bears bring in will be judged on wins and losses because the team will be rebuilt specifically for that head coach to succeed. It's been a rough era of Bears football these past several years, but I'm optimistic about the future.
 

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Pat Fitzgerald Head Coach of Northwestern University Football

Can you or anybody else please enlighten us about these individuals?
 

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Agree 100% with the first and third paragraph. That second paragraph is either a troll job or a Special person hijacked your account.

Lol was trying to explain my thoughts on the state of the Bears dealing with the quarterbacks and John Fox. Sorry it's a bit all over the place. To put it simply - Pace set out to fix QB from day one and inherited Jay Cutler and his shit contract, tried to deal him, tried to land a top QB and he wasn't able to until this offseason. QB solved best he could do through three offseasons. John Fox and the Bears team in general should not be beaten up for losing too many games and not making the playoffs because that's not the agenda in place right now. Pace is setting the team up for success in the future and with that surely is in search of his HC who will lead the Bears to championships.
 

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I'm positive the Bears will be moving on from John Fox after this season, so this should certainly be the big talk right now on this forum. Let the Head Coaching Candidates talk commence!
 

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too many words for what you are trying to say.....

Pace is the GM...any coach brought in will either have to work for the GM which will not be Harbaugh or McDaniels. Or Pace will be fired and a powerful Coach/GM will be brought in...

Bears still shy maybe from the Wanny debacle where he was a defacto GM.
 

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too many words for what you are trying to say.....

Pace is the GM...any coach brought in will either have to work for the GM which will not be Harbaugh or McDaniels. Or Pace will be fired and a powerful Coach/GM will be brought in...

Bears still shy maybe from the Wanny debacle where he was a defacto GM.

How dare you?? Pace is going nowhere damn it.....NOWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I'm positive the Bears will be moving on from John Fox after this season, so this should certainly be the big talk right now on this forum. Let the Head Coaching Candidates talk commence!

How can you be so certain? Maybe Pace has more pull then we think and wants continuity for his team.
 

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Lol was trying to explain my thoughts on the state of the Bears dealing with the quarterbacks and John Fox. Sorry it's a bit all over the place. To put it simply - Pace set out to fix QB from day one and inherited Jay Cutler and his shit contract, tried to deal him, tried to land a top QB and he wasn't able to until this offseason. QB solved best he could do through three offseasons. John Fox and the Bears team in general should not be beaten up for losing too many games and not making the playoffs because that's not the agenda in place right now. Pace is setting the team up for success in the future and with that surely is in search of his HC who will lead the Bears to championships.
Funny, that's what Elway said about Fox, he doesn't care enough about winning.

In reality, every team wants to win. There is never a lesser agenda. I've seen teams rebuilt basically overnight so I wish you assclowns would stop going on and on about this long Bears rebuild.
 

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Funny, that's what Elway said about Fox, he doesn't care enough about winning.

In reality, every team wants to win. There is never a lesser agenda. I've seen teams rebuilt basically overnight so I wish you assclowns would stop going on and on about this long Bears rebuild.

This team is going through a rebuild whether you accept it or not. Pace and Fox started out in 2015 with practically an expansion team worth of talent and the team a complete disaster from top to bottom. It takes time to get this fixed and to fix it right. The Bears at the time when they were going through their head coaching search happened upon a fired ex-Bronco HC John Fox and certainly he agreed to do the dirty work for the team. This team was not built to win no matter who they brought in in 2015, but they did need somebody with a good reputation that could get the team back on it's feet without doing any more damage than already been done. It should be no surprise that John Fox signed a 4 year contract to fix the culture, get the team back on it's feet and head on his way to retirement. He's not the long -term HC of this team. He is like what Glennon is to the QB situation on the team now. He is a bridge HC. We are here to talk about potential candidates to replace John Fox now. Who and why they would be a good fit for the team.
 

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