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    Quote Originally Posted by Parade_Rain View Post
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    He's certainly better than Crouch. I'm glad they moved Chayce to TE. It's a good spot for him. It's tough waiting for this team to be competitive in 2019. Right now, it looks like they have some really good Freshmen, but even good Freshman are outmatched in P5. Just too many of them needing to start.

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    I'm a troll.
    Yes. You certainly are. Freshman class is very good. Physically, they will be expected to be on par with every other team's upper classes, when....wait for it...they are upperclassmen. That's 2019. Further, they have 2 solid dual threat QB coming in next season. 2019 is when both will be Soph and can be expected to be solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parade_Rain View Post
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    Yes. You certainly are. Freshman class is very good. Physically, they will be expected to be on par with every other team's upper classes, when....wait for it...they are upperclassmen. That's 2019. Further, they have 2 solid dual threat QB coming in next season. 2019 is when both will be Soph and can be expected to be solid.
    Not sure I understand your logic. Every other team in the country also have underclassman who play and will also be Upperclassman in 2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkBear View Post
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    Not sure I understand your logic. Every other team in the country also have underclassman who play and will also be Upperclassman in 2019.
    Please name 1 FBS team that starts the number of Freshmen UI does? You can't. IL starts at least 14. The next closest is 4. When this team is old enough, meaning these freshman being juniors, this team will be competitive. Duh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parade_Rain View Post
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    Please name 1 FBS team that starts the number of Freshmen UI does? You can't. IL starts at least 14. The next closest is 4. When this team is old enough, meaning these freshman being juniors, this team will be competitive. Duh.
    Alot of stuff can happen in 2-3 years. Transfers, injuries, kids getting kicked off the team, etc. I don't even know why I'm arguing with you because I don't give one shit about Illinois football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkBear View Post
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    Alot of stuff can happen in 2-3 years. Transfers, injuries, kids getting kicked off the team, etc. I don't even know why I'm arguing with you because I don't give one shit about Illinois football.
    Good, because in 2019 Illinois will kick Hawkeye ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parade_Rain View Post
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    Good, because in 2019 Illinois will kick Hawkeye ass.
    Can't wait for Iowa's 2* recruits to roll over your 2017 Underclassman in 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parade_Rain View Post
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    Please name 1 FBS team that starts the number of Freshmen UI does? You can't. IL starts at least 14. The next closest is 4. When this team is old enough, meaning these freshman being juniors, this team will be competitive. Duh.
    Your logic is still flawed. Does UI start that many freshman because they are just that talented, or are they starting that many freshman out of necessity? Are you suggesting that the freshman who are not starting at places like Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska are going to make their teams competitive because they are second or third stringers currently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkBear View Post
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    Can't wait for Iowa's 2* recruits to roll over your 2017 Underclassman in 2 years.
    Awesome, Hawk. We will have to revisit this thread in 2019!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustavus Adolphus View Post
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    Your logic is still flawed. Does UI start that many freshman because they are just that talented, or are they starting that many freshman out of necessity? Are you suggesting that the freshman who are not starting at places like Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska are going to make their teams competitive because they are second or third stringers currently?
    Outside of about 3 kids on the bench from the Beckman/Cubit regime, I can't think of the talent being that good. No. My logic isn't flawed. You aren't going to win playing 14 Freshmen with regularity in the B1G, let alone any other P5. Fact. That's why you can see games where the D can hang for a half and the second half turns into a laugher. Freshmen in those large numbers are simply outmatched physically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parade_Rain View Post
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    Outside of about 3 kids on the bench from the Beckman/Cubit regime, I can't think of the talent being that good. No. My logic isn't flawed. You aren't going to win playing 14 Freshmen with regularity in the B1G, let alone any other P5. Fact. That's why you can see games where the D can hang for a half and the second half turns into a laugher. Freshmen in those large numbers are simply outmatched physically.
    I'm not suggesting playing that many freshmen will lead to wins. What I am suggesting is that freshmen on other teams might still be better than UI's freshmen when they become upperclassmen. That is where your logic is flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustavus Adolphus View Post
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    I'm not suggesting playing that many freshmen will lead to wins. What I am suggesting is that freshmen on other teams might still be better than UI's freshmen when they become upperclassmen. That is where your logic is flawed.
    I said they would be competitive. No where did I say they were going to be B1G West kings and win the National Championship. Let's keep things in context. Thanks in advance.

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    Awesome, Hawk. We will have to revisit this thread in 2019!
    11/23/2019 -- it's on.

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    Hell, I might go to that game lol. I usually go to 2-3 every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parade_Rain View Post
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    I said they would be competitive. No where did I say they were going to be B1G West kings and win the National Championship. Let's keep things in context. Thanks in advance.
    They may go 0-11, but damnt it'll be a close 0-11!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parade_Rain View Post
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    I said they would be competitive. No where did I say they were going to be B1G West kings and win the National Championship. Let's keep things in context. Thanks in advance.

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    Hell, I might go to that game lol. I usually go to 2-3 every year.
    Season ticket holder here.

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    Season ticket holder here.
    I'm sorry.

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    I'm sorry.
    Don't be. I'm in one of the better tailgating lots.

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    Cam Thomas stunk it up. Jeez.

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    Cam Thomas stunk it up. Jeez.
    Wait until 2019, FT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstTimer View Post
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    Cam Thomas stunk it up. Jeez.
    What exactly did you expect Cam Thomas, true freshman, to do? At one point he had two straight positive plays running the ball and was immediately replaced by George Jr. I guess the Illini OC wanted to telegraph a pass play and let Wisky rush George with reckless abandon causing a fumble.

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