IST: Cubs vs Padres

Globetrotter · Jun 19, 2017

chibears55 said:
Richard
6.1 IP 5 hits 2 runs

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Nice. Props to you, sir.

Looked like he was going to pitch a complete game with 75 pitches there for a bit.

chibears55 · Jun 19, 2017

Guess it was only a matter of time when Davis blows one

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chibears55 · Jun 19, 2017

Damn..
Not supposed to have nail biters against the Padres and Clayton Richard at home

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TL1961 · Jun 19, 2017

chibears55 said:
Got 2 fast runners on base no outs and can't/Don't do anything to move them over..

Lester can't bunt..
Maddon don't try a double steal..
Things you need to do when you're struggling

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Don't blame Maddon for the double play.

A double steal there would have been a terrible idea.

beckdawg · Jun 20, 2017

I find it interesting that for all the negativity on this board about the cubs performance, Fangraphs still projects the cubs to win 89 games. In fact, they give the cubs an 81.5% of winning the division and they don't project to even be close. They have the cards finishing second with 81 wins.

CSF77 · Jun 20, 2017

beckdawg said:
I find it interesting that for all the negativity on this board about the cubs performance, Fangraphs still projects the cubs to win 89 games. In fact, they give the cubs an 81.5% of winning the division and they don't project to even be close. They have the cards finishing second with 81 wins.

Projections are just that. Real games are played on the diamond

Parade_Rain · Jun 20, 2017

538 has Cubs with 58% chance of winning division and 88-74 record. I don't see the Cubs making that.

chibears55 · Jun 20, 2017

beckdawg said:
I find it interesting that for all the negativity on this board about the cubs performance, Fangraphs still projects the cubs to win 89 games. In fact, they give the cubs an 81.5% of winning the division and they don't project to even be close. They have the cards finishing second with 81 wins.

Their obviously not watching this team play..

54-39 rest of way to finish with 89 wins..

They need to add a couple solid SP and offense has to go 180 for this to happen IMO..

I'm looking at 80-85 wins if they get hot at some point

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anotheridiot · Jun 20, 2017

I dont need my Abacus to see the cubs hitting into shifts with runners on base and making loud outs. Does not take much to see Bryant with less than a 2:1 RBI per HR ratio at 15 and 28. Whole lot of guys getting on base 3 out of 10 at bats, but nobody is going with the pitch and not grounding into the shift.

Gustavus Adolphus · Jun 20, 2017

Great job by Rizzo. I'm sure last night's collision will not lead to any type of shenanigans today.

TC in Mississippi · Jun 20, 2017

The offense has been acceptable for a month, it's been very good for the last 14 games with a team slash of .258/.342/.483 . Yes the pitching needs to improve but both Arrieta and Lester have started turning it around and a healthy Hendricks and an acquisition will stabilize the staff. The bullpen is a respectable 4th in the NL with only the Dodgers significantly better. I have never doubted for a minute that this team would win the division. I predicted 91-93 wins to start the season and while I've downgraded some I still think they'll win 89-91. The team has been mediocre but around here you would swear they were terrible. Cleveland had basically the same record as the Cubs a week ago and now is starting to run away with their division I think you'll see the same thing here. The last several games have been fun to watch but you wouldn't know it here.

TC in Mississippi · Jun 20, 2017

Gustavus Adolphus said:
Great job by Rizzo. I'm sure last night's collision will not lead to any type of shenanigans today.

Yes, he'll get plunked but it was a clean play.

Gustavus Adolphus · Jun 20, 2017

I dunno. Seems to me that Rizzo didn't have to go into him:

TC in Mississippi · Jun 20, 2017

Gustavus Adolphus said:
I dunno. Seems to me that Rizzo didn't have to go into him:

The rule clearly states that it's a clean play if the runner didn't deviate from their path. Hedges reached in front of the plate to get the ball which basically made him fair game. It was an unfortunate play, but not a dirty one.

chibears55 · Jun 20, 2017

Gustavus Adolphus said:
I dunno. Seems to me that Rizzo didn't have to go into him:

I think Rizzo knew he was gonna be out so decided to make hard contact to either jar ball loose or hope for catcher blocking plate to soon, over sliding around him..

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Gustavus Adolphus · Jun 20, 2017

TC in Mississippi said:
The rule clearly states that it's a clean play if the runner didn't deviate from their path.

...or otherwise initiate an avoidable collision.

TL1961 · Jun 20, 2017

Gustavus Adolphus said:
I dunno. Seems to me that Rizzo didn't have to go into him:

I see a catcher at the front edge of the plate. Where was he supposed to go?

ijustposthere · Jun 20, 2017

chibears55 said:
Their obviously not watching this team play..

54-39 rest of way to finish with 89 wins..

They need to add a couple solid SP and offense has to go 180 for this to happen IMO..

I'm looking at 80-85 wins if they get hot at some point

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LOL, In '15 they were doing the same shit as this year until after the ASB and won 98 games.

chibears55 · Jun 20, 2017

Big difference between 2015 and 2017 is pitching .

After 69 games in 2015 they were 39-30 with a team ERA of 3.36..

69 games in this year, their 35-34 with team ERA of 4.12..

In 2nd half they finished 50-25 with ERA of 3.42..

So, unless like I said ..they add a couple of stud starters before deadline..
Just don't see this starting group getting that hot in 2nd half.

Far as hitters go..
They have 4 guys hitting over .270,and none are regulars.
Almora,Jay,Montero,LaStella

So,going to need alot of guys to get hot and consistent with the bats.

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beckdawg · Jun 20, 2017

chibears55 said:
Their obviously not watching this team play..

54-39 rest of way to finish with 89 wins..

They need to add a couple solid SP and offense has to go 180 for this to happen IMO..

I'm looking at 80-85 wins if they get hot at some point

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80-85 wins "if they get hot?" You realize they are already on that pace right? A .507 win% would be 82 wins. To get to 89 wins they need to be roughly 7 games over .500 the rest of the way. They don't even have to win that hard. It's a .580 win%. For reference, they won at a .640 win% clip last year and .599 in 2015. That 2015 broke down into .540 in the first half and .667 in the second. Those teams had largely the same group of guys. Also for what it's worth, that 2016 team had a .602 win% in the first half and a .685 in the second. So, the past two years they have been +.127 and +.083 in the second half. They only need to be +.073 in the second half this year to get to 89 wins.

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