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NFL: The ANTI development league
I've been saying this for years...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...stanton-criticizes-nfls-qb-development-system
At the end of the article, they falsely claim that having "1st Round" next to your name helps. Only that's not even true anymore. RG3 is still unemployed after showing some good things in his brief appearances last year. Injury prone doesn't mean "not talented". Bridgewater is probably the next to have a hard time getting developed. And of course its even harder for 2nd rounders on to find development.
Once you've been injured or have character flags, coaches and GM's around the league become fickle.
The NFL really needs a new NFL Europe/farm system type thing.
I'd even be cool with a CFL partnership. The CFL is struggling money wise. Why not buy them out like Vince bought out WCW. Only instead of burying them, USE the talent in the NFL that needs developing to help bolster their product...which in turn can only bolster your product at home.
Lot's of QB's especially NEED to play to get better when their number gets called:
Hackenburg
Brissett
Cook
Sudfeld
Rudock
Mannion
Grayson
Hundley
Mettenberger
Fales
Nassib
Barkley
Mallet
Yates
Just to name a few.
I mean how sad was it to watch the Raiders valiant season go up in flames last January because Cook wasn't ready.
I think the Cardinals suffered a similar fate in the playoffs a couple years ago with Ryan Lindley.
I mean the Jets might have had a chance to actually win a game this fall if there had been a place for Hack and Petty to develop.
And if they're never gonna partner with Canada, they should at least be poaching their top talent. For every Andy Fantuz...there is a Cameron Wake.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/06/23/cfl-qb-bo-levi-mitchell-hopes-for-nfl-chance/
Ive watched him. He's good. But for years the NFL has ignored straight up BALLERS like Matt Dunigan, Anthony Calvillo, and Damon Allen. They could've played in the NFL, and been SOLID #2'S at the least. If Jacoby Brissett can win games in the NFL, I PROMISE you, Tracey Ham could have. Henry Burris might be the butt of many jokes among Bears fans, but the guy JUST retired this year because he DEVELOPED in Canada and BALLED for the last 14 years.
NFL needs to get more creative and less fickle when it comes to developing not just QB's but ALL positions. Josh Bellamy might have caught that game winner against the Titans last year if he'd gotten a chance to catch passes in Canada or an American farm league.
But QB's especially. Because their is nothing worse than a good team going up in flames because your backup has had NO development.
I remember the 2011 collapse under Caleb Hanie like it was yesterday. I bet we win at least 3 of those 5 or 6 games Hanie lost with a SEASONED QB like Anthony Calvillo who just the season before had numbers like this:
67.6 comp%
4,839yds
32tds
7ints
108.1 rating
Inactivity in football does NOT lead to good things.
Kurt Warner routinely mentions how freaking Arena ball is where he developed his accuracy. Good eye Dick Vermeil.
I've been saying this for years...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...stanton-criticizes-nfls-qb-development-system
At the end of the article, they falsely claim that having "1st Round" next to your name helps. Only that's not even true anymore. RG3 is still unemployed after showing some good things in his brief appearances last year. Injury prone doesn't mean "not talented". Bridgewater is probably the next to have a hard time getting developed. And of course its even harder for 2nd rounders on to find development.
Once you've been injured or have character flags, coaches and GM's around the league become fickle.
The NFL really needs a new NFL Europe/farm system type thing.
I'd even be cool with a CFL partnership. The CFL is struggling money wise. Why not buy them out like Vince bought out WCW. Only instead of burying them, USE the talent in the NFL that needs developing to help bolster their product...which in turn can only bolster your product at home.
Lot's of QB's especially NEED to play to get better when their number gets called:
Hackenburg
Brissett
Cook
Sudfeld
Rudock
Mannion
Grayson
Hundley
Mettenberger
Fales
Nassib
Barkley
Mallet
Yates
Just to name a few.
I mean how sad was it to watch the Raiders valiant season go up in flames last January because Cook wasn't ready.
I think the Cardinals suffered a similar fate in the playoffs a couple years ago with Ryan Lindley.
I mean the Jets might have had a chance to actually win a game this fall if there had been a place for Hack and Petty to develop.
And if they're never gonna partner with Canada, they should at least be poaching their top talent. For every Andy Fantuz...there is a Cameron Wake.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/06/23/cfl-qb-bo-levi-mitchell-hopes-for-nfl-chance/
Ive watched him. He's good. But for years the NFL has ignored straight up BALLERS like Matt Dunigan, Anthony Calvillo, and Damon Allen. They could've played in the NFL, and been SOLID #2'S at the least. If Jacoby Brissett can win games in the NFL, I PROMISE you, Tracey Ham could have. Henry Burris might be the butt of many jokes among Bears fans, but the guy JUST retired this year because he DEVELOPED in Canada and BALLED for the last 14 years.
NFL needs to get more creative and less fickle when it comes to developing not just QB's but ALL positions. Josh Bellamy might have caught that game winner against the Titans last year if he'd gotten a chance to catch passes in Canada or an American farm league.
But QB's especially. Because their is nothing worse than a good team going up in flames because your backup has had NO development.
I remember the 2011 collapse under Caleb Hanie like it was yesterday. I bet we win at least 3 of those 5 or 6 games Hanie lost with a SEASONED QB like Anthony Calvillo who just the season before had numbers like this:
67.6 comp%
4,839yds
32tds
7ints
108.1 rating
Inactivity in football does NOT lead to good things.
Kurt Warner routinely mentions how freaking Arena ball is where he developed his accuracy. Good eye Dick Vermeil.
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Idk why they don't have an American farm league.... just do 1 affiliate per NFL team and let them play like March - July ... give us something to watch in the offseason.
It might not be big money like regular football season, but if the Bears had a farm team on TV March - July I would watch.
It might not be big money like regular football season, but if the Bears had a farm team on TV March - July I would watch.
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Maybe it's because I hate slavery, but I'd really like to see the NFL get away from the NCAA and develop academies like European soccer does.
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Several avenues the NFL could explore:
-Farm system in America in smaller cities. Would probably be a nice boost to local economies.
-Buyout the CFL. Which would probably cost what Derek Carr makes in 15 minutes. And you'd already have the LOYAL FAN BASE in place up there. it almost makes too much sense.
-Go back overseas. This one im opposed to as I DESPISE the London b.s. But if Goodell is DETERMINED to have global expansion...what better place to send the developmental guys. But again...it could fail as it has before.
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Would be pretty cool to bring back the Decatur Staleys as a minor league NFL team.
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I think if they did this, it would be around the same time frame the NFL is. It would be tough on a body to play a full schedule, do well, and then be asked to compete in the regular season without much of a break.
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If they do a farm league I think they should go for the NFL market already here at home.... with the CFL thing as a backup... at least then the games could still be in U.S. timezones. I didn't watch NFL Europe and it wasn't 1 team per NFL franchise so it wasn't like those teams/players were the future of my team.
If I watch the Rockford Icehogs, I know I am seeing guys who are the future of the Chicago Blackhawks.... if I had the option to watch an affiliate of the Bears over the Spring/Summer, I would and I think alot of the fanbases would so long as you get them on TV.... NFL Network, ESPN, NBC/ABC/FOX.
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I would not do a full season for the dev league... maybe 6-8 games... and the majority of them I would not expect to play in the NFL season, but could be called up to TC/Pre-Season/Regular Season if needed.
If you do the dev league season during the normal NFL season, no one watches it.... do it now when we have nothing to watch but baseball.
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i think the concussion lawsuits are going to get huge in the next 5-10 years...i am sure the nfl isn't going to co-sign another league for that reason alone
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Maybe have it around the time the Canadian League starts? I always watch some of those games in July and then mercifully forget about it once the NFL starts.
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I would start it earlier.... the offseason drags hard enough March - July that you could easily get an audience during those months.
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I thought there was supposed to be a dev league in place this year. Some big names were running it. Not sure what happened.
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How in the hell do you think they come up with 1692 (32 x 53) players for an NFL minor league? Teams are not going to send anyone above PS level to get their heads bashed in for meaningless games. With actual well paid NFL players quitting because of fear of CTE, how many guys do you see taking that risk for a few thousand dollars? Best they could do is maybe one team per division, which would give it, at least a little tie in, to make it interesting.
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NFL Europe? Oh wait! Didn't have enough rewards for it's cost and now, the current liability vs benefit will never add up. Maybe those players don't need development. Could be they need other jobs. It's an injury prone league where almost everyone worth anything gets a look and teams can't fill rosters with front line players. While useful, I don't think game reps is the biggest issue with finding talent.
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Just about every player that has never made it out of a training camp would kill for a chance to go into a system where they could develop for a year while playing ball actively with some amount of structure / resources and while being paid - however nominally.
What I think might be cool is to build a USA based farm league and then include 2 canadian divisions so a few of those teams through the process of their normal season can make the unified playoffs each year. This means that the NFL needs to field less bodies to have a fully staffed league.
If there was no CFL alliance, you can bet your ass the 20 or so American players who are playing in the CFL for money would happily move to a NFL sponsored farm league. so really we are talking so lets say 33x32 which gets us around 1k players. Still a large number of bodies... But each team goes to camp with 90 bodies and cuts to 53+8 leaving behind 29 dudes... almost exactly what you would need to make up the difference to fill an NFL farm league.
Finally, many players wash out of the NFL after failing to make a team after the first years training camp. This is because without a football income, it is really hard to keep up with training, food, gym time, specialists and so on. But with a developmental league, guys who didn't make a team in their first year would get a chance to stay in a system for multiple years and develop. It is without question some of these players would come into their own with their "grown man strength" but instead they never get a chance because they are 1 and done at camp. Since guys would stay in the system for multiple years, you wouldn't need to take every cast off from every training camp - you could be selective about it and keep the better players from the previous years... and just like that the system has depth.
I dunno... it does seem like quite a bit of extension for the NFL but I think a lot of small to mid sized cities would do well selling tickets to see teams of ex college hero's bolstered by a few up and coming / past their prime but certified NFL talents. Maybe some of those scrappy white recievers like daniel braverman and of course the Tebow's or RGIII's of the world.
Like TBH, I would rather see the Bears farm team play if it meant reasonably priced tickets where me and my buds could go to the game. get some beers and watch Michael Vick spin it without needing to bank a couple months of OT.
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Of course this sounds great, but one angle I wonder about is if the NFL would be on the hook for healthcare for these players for the rest of their lives. Those costs would quickly crush an NFL B-league.
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