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Sounds like someone is just seeing his draft status. Fact is anyone with half a brain can see Leno isnt great but also isnt terrible. Hawk is Hawking again.
Sounds like someone is just seeing his draft status. Fact is anyone with half a brain can see Leno isnt great but also isnt terrible. Hawk is Hawking again.
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His obsession with the Leno hate is deserving of a Leno Hate sub-forum. I say create it and confine him there. Very old and tired narrative from that guy.
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I'm checking Google to see if they have a translation app for your post.
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You can start first by repeating the 1st grade.
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Pretty sure Leno and Massive started all year didn't they? Were either of them hurt? Can't remember....
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You do need to work on your spelling dough......
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Lol please give us some Bear football insight son. Besides who are you the board spelling police? Smh
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Now that's ironic!
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I want to develop both. And Kush is already mostly developed, but Grasu is not. If Grasu looks good, we need to see what we have with him. Hopefully preseason will show us plenty.
Whitehair (2nd Rd) was drafted to play G. Grasu (3rd Rd) was drafted to play C. IF they can both play well, surely they will play their primary positions soon enough.
As I said, if Sitton, Long and Whitehair are all healthy, they'll probably stay where they are. During a game, if Sitton or Long go down, Kush would likely jump in at G. But being Long and Sitton are both fragile these days, we're going to want to get Grasu established at C as soon as possible -- if he's playing well (with Whitehair to G).
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I think I see what you are trying to get at, but I just don't agree with it. First of all how do you know Kush is mostly developed?
OG Kush went to a really small school in western PA and was drafted in the 6th Rd by the Chiefs. After, two years with KC he started 1 game and was cut in 2015. He signed and cut by TB, CAR, and HOU before STL signed him in November where he played in the final 6 games never starting one. STL cut him in September and the Bears signed him immediately. 6 teams in 4 years and never been unemployed more then 2 days. How is this guy mostly developed? This guy has had his dreams crushed 5 times already and only started 1 time before the Bears had him start 4 games last year.
The goal should be to get the best 5 players out there if there is an injury to a OG then Kush should fill in for him. We know that 00Whitehair plays at a probowl level at center. We also know Kush plays at least good to average at the OG position next to Whitehair. What we don't know is how Whitehair is going to play at OG and if Grasu has improved from horrible at center.
The best you should hope for is that Grasu progressed from horrible to average. With Kush, maybe he can progress from average to good. The only time Grasu should be playing is if Whitehair is hurt. Any other injury we should be putting OG Kush in the mix.
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Funny stuff. You haven't got shit clue about real life.
Joe Thomas 3.8 sacks/16 games, Andrew Whitworth 4sacks/16games, Joe Staley 4.5, Trent Williams 6.5, Donald Penn 7.3, Charles Leno 5.1
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Exactly! Leno is not a bad LT, but he may be the worst OL starting for us. With that said, if they stay healthy they could easly be a top 5 OL. Jordan Howard is going to be a monster in FF!
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Grasu is going to have to deliver a "Monster Camp" to make the 53. Not sure if he can, but wish him the best.
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Who is he competing with as backup center?
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I think Kush can play center also
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I thnk you are right, the depth chart from ourlads have them in this order:
C 65 Whitehair, Cody 16/2 55 Grasu, Hroniss 15/3 57 BOGGS, TAYLOR U/Arz 64 Kush, Eric W/LA
I cant wait til this Saturday when we get a good idea of the official depth chart. I am mostly interested in the WR and Secondary chart.
Who will be our 2 outside and slot WR on Saturday?? who our the 2 Saftys on Saturday?? I don't even know who the two outside CBs are... so many questions
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Well, you've also painted yourself a picture... Grasu was drafted by Pace/Bears in the 3rd, and Kush has been with 5 teams in a few years. Pace is going to give Grasu ever opportunity to succeed with the Bears. And he should. Kush is seen as a lucky backup... not contending for a starting position against Sitton or Long... rather a straight up backup. I hope they both Grasu and Kush succeed. But there's people on this forum who want to cut Grasu now... they don't even want to see how he plays now. Very strange. The Bears organization isn't holding a 'grudge' against Grasu like folks on this forum.
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I hate this too. If they are playing good, fucking leave them there. Like when we moved Kyle Long to tackle - he sucked and secretly hated it. And we weakened 2 spots by doing that. Now the team is talking about moving him to LG and Sitton to RG. Not as drastic but it's still different blocking angles and you're just asking to regress from last year.
We also did that with Chris Williams back in 2009. We played him at RT, then moved him to LT where he got injured, then moved him to LG, then released him a couple years later because he sucked. I think partially because he never got set in one position in his first couple years in the NFL.
As for Grasu, it's basically a battle between Morgan, Boggs, Richardson and Grasu for 1 backup center/guard position. Whoever makes it out of those 4 will determine where Kush plays (backup center or guard). And they will try to get Morgan or Grasu on the practice squad if they don't make the 53 since they're Pace's draft picks.
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Amen. What's even stranger is that Grasu was a developmental type of draft choice. He was recognized as undersized & under-strengthed when the Bears drafted him. The various draft analysis services were pretty uniform in saying that he needed to bulk up and hit the weight room really hard before he'd be physically ready to compete at the NFL level. They were also fairly uniform in saying that if he were able to add bulk & strength, he could become a quality center, given his athleticism & agility. Instead of having that first year to develop, he gets thrown in the starting lineup very early, due to Montgomery's injury. Surprise, surprise, he gets overpowered. Now, a bunch of people here have decided he can't play, even though they've seen nothing about his play since his rookie year. Maybe "strange" isn't the right word; "silly" is probably more accurate...
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Personally can't understand why anybody would be down on a midget center with a torn ACL?
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