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Ummmmmmmmm since you can't figure this out on your own......i was obviously talking about when we drafted him.....can you keep up??
Ummmmmmmmm since you can't figure this out on your own......i was obviously talking about when we drafted him.....can you keep up??
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LOL...go look at that roster again bro.
talent all over the place...
2 HOF's (Peppers & Smith)
Several All-Pro's & Pro-Bowlers in their career--Minter, Rucker, Muhammad, Davis, Jenkins, Gross, Morgan, Witherspoon, Grant,
Ricky Manning was an absolute stud backup as well. Hell even Sauerbrun was a Pro-Bowler.
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How healthy he was in college was irrelevant leading up to this past off season. Season ending injuries in 2015 and 2016 should have been a red flag about his durability in 2017.
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If that's true and I'm McCaskey I fire Pace the fuck now. That is fucked up. But I don't think it's actually true. I think Pace simply sucks at pro evaluations.
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Angelo pulled the same shit with Jauron when he signed Kordell in 2003. Its not so far-fetched and is not uncommon in the NFL
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IMO Pace should not get a pass for Fox.
The articles Mongo posted are from the site and outside sources. Factoring in the timing and we have Pace hired before Fox is fired and Pace is looking for a HC.
Now, we also have Gabriel saying Fox was in essence forced on Pace and we have the Bears saying Fox was not forced on Pace. My take is that if Pace was bullied, he backed down and accepted it. Either way, I don't see how Pace gets a pass.
He either approved it willingly or backed down from putting forward his objections in favor of HIS guy ... either way, his hands are not exactly clean.
I know it doesn't matter cause I know Pace is safe. I just really wish he wasn't as I have zero faith in his ability to hire a coach/build a team from this point forward.
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The articles Mongo posted are from the site and outside sources. Factoring in the timing and we have Pace hired before Fox is fired and Pace is looking for a HC.
Now, we also have Gabriel saying Fox was in essence forced on Pace and we have the Bears saying Fox was not forced on Pace. My take is that if Pace was bullied, he backed down and accepted it. Either way, I don't see how Pace gets a pass.
He either approved it willingly or backed down from putting forward his objections in favor of HIS guy ... either way, his hands are not exactly clean.
I know it doesn't matter cause I know Pace is safe. I just really wish he wasn't as I have zero faith in his ability to hire a coach/build a team from this point forward.
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I didn't say it was not far-fetched. I am saying it is fucked up and worthy of immediate termination. Cause messing with W - Ls and careers and livelihoods is totally and irredeemably fucked up.
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50% haha? Maybe you've forgotten who you're comparing to the rest of the league here. It's Ryan Pace. So how about we try 10% and go from there. And yeah, a lot of GM's can at least match that i'd say. You're getting dangerously close to defending Pace's record in FA here, I don't think that would be the smartest move.
Pace's approach and execution in FA so far stinks to high heaven and that guy earlier had every right to bring it up. The draft? That's another matter, Pace has done some fine work in the draft, which btw is WAY more important to roster building than FA.
Hopefully by the end of this 10year rebuild the Bears will be in a position to need a couple of high quality FA's to put them over the top. But IF that day ever comes do you think Pace can identify them? Not sure I do.
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Don't worry its not true, that dude just posted the dumbest thing in the history of message boards is all.
Glennon was not signed to get Fox fired lol. Like he needed to do that.
Glennon represented the FA element of Pace's double-barrelled attempt the address the QB position. A position he knew had to be addressed. It wasn't a dumb idea, why give yourself one chance when you can give yourself two? I'd say the most important position in pro sports deserves no less.
The problem came, as it seems to with Pace, with identification and execution. First he picked the wrong guy, then he grossly overpaid him. But hey, we still have Trubisky and I'm sure he was Plan A anyway.
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You gotta give Pace somewhat of a pass here because how often do you get offered a general manager job in the NFL? This was an opportunity of a lifetime for him and even though that might not have been his choice, he talked himself into believing he could work around it. Can’t fault him for that.
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Fox's time is up, Pace has a couple more years. Its a rebuild people. I predicted a 5-11 season before it started and looks like it will be exactly that. If you were hoping for more than maybe the issue is your unrealistic expectations?
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You're not wrong but in this particular case, Miller is always on short term deals (drafted a TE in 2) and White was not at all injury prone when drafted.
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Yes he did. he had full veto authority.
But he wanted Fox.
Got his guy.
He's accountable
No Pass.
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He doesn't deserve a pass. But I don't want to change coach and GM again. First, I have zero confidence in the McCasky's finding the right guy. But if they go to a new GM, it very well could be a complete strip down rebuild. I think the bears have some nice players and are in a great cap situation. I think they can right a lot in free agency with the recieving core and finding an immediate impact pass rusher in the draft. If they successfully address those positions and resign some of their own (Amukamara, Fuller), they can right the sail. Obviously this is assuming they make a change at HC and find someone who can develop Trubisky, which is priority #1.
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Maybe you have shitty expectations, my friend. In year 3 of a rebuild and we're still a laughing stock. Why can other franchises start seeing improvement in 1-2 seasons but teams like the Bears, Jets and Browns can't get out of their own way?
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And the thing is, the GM and coaching staff considered him to be our #1 or #2 even though he sucked. He might be better than Wheaton though but the jury is still out. If Pace pencils White in as anything higher than #5 or #6 going into next year when considering his new roster, he should be taken behind the shed.
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Maybe you have shitty expectations, my friend. In year 3 of a rebuild and we're still a laughing stock. Why can other franchises start seeing improvement in 1-2 seasons but teams like the Bears, Jets and Browns can't get out of their own way?
I prefer the Pace Philly is on over ours.
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The re-build never started as long as Cutler was on the team.
cutler/gase got us 6 wins but it was the best Cutler would do.
Last year, they hoped that cutler could win out in the last year of his contract but he got hurt again.
And pace still had no rookie QB to groom.
Hoyer was good and may have won more games if he was healthy for the entire season.
Now, year 3 of Fox, Pace starts re-building with Trubisky.
Fox never had a chance with winning by keeping Cutler. The timing was bad for Fox to succeed in Chicago.
With Trubisky, the future is bright and I expect hte Bears to make the palyoffs next year
cutler/gase got us 6 wins but it was the best Cutler would do.
Last year, they hoped that cutler could win out in the last year of his contract but he got hurt again.
And pace still had no rookie QB to groom.
Hoyer was good and may have won more games if he was healthy for the entire season.
Now, year 3 of Fox, Pace starts re-building with Trubisky.
Fox never had a chance with winning by keeping Cutler. The timing was bad for Fox to succeed in Chicago.
With Trubisky, the future is bright and I expect hte Bears to make the palyoffs next year
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LOFL.
I posted a fucking article by the Bears own write ON THEIR FUCKING TEAM WEB PAGE.
Of course corporations never try to control the narrative... Pretty naive...
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