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    It Dec. 1st and that means FA signings and trades will start to happen more often...

    WhiteSox just signed Wellington Castillo

    Cubs officially signed Dario Alvarez


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    Like the deal for the White Sox. Perfect bridge for Collins/Skoug
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    Cubs sign Tyler Chatwood RH starter 3 yrs 38 mil

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    Cubs sign Tyler Chatwood RH starter 3 yrs 45 mil

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    WOW! Pitching is OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive
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    WOW! Pitching is OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive
    It is but i mistaken..
    It 38 mil

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    It is but i mistaken..
    It 38 mil

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    It's better..perhaps Hickey can get his numbers under control
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    Cubs sign Tyler Chatwood RH starter 3 yrs 38 mil

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    This tells me that Chatwood most likely the 5th starter and it either Ohtani or Cobb...

    So, all the talk about trading for a TOR type starter is most likely not happening now

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    Itís about what Hammel got and he is a fair Comp.

    Hoping this is not a white flag move myself

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    It's better..perhaps Hickey can get his numbers under control
    His splits from 2017 is much much better away from Colorado

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    His splits from 2017 is much much better away from Colorado

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    Speculation is that this was the F/A pick up. The other will be either Ohtani or losing on him making a trade.

    So this is Lackeyís replacement.

    Now there has been some rumblings on NYY looking at Schwarber. Not sure if it is legit and honestly I really donít see a match up. Cubs need a arm and so do the Yanks.

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    Mariners traded for dee gordon as nd 1 mil international money..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chibears55 View Post
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    His splits from 2017 is much much better away from Colorado

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    This seems like it's a big deal with him, so hopefully Wrigley is different for him.

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    Ozuna to Cardinals. Too bad the Cubs dont have a player of this caliber on their roster

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    Ozuna to Cardinals. Too bad the Cubs dont have a player of this caliber on their roster

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    What would you call Rizzo and Bryant?
    1A types. Ozuna is closer to Altuve and Goldschmidt than he is to Rizzo and Bryant
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    1A types. Ozuna is closer to Altuve and Goldschmidt that he is to Rizzo and Bryant
    Dear lord man, if you think Ozuna is a better player than Bryant or Rizzo you're certifiably insane.

    Just for starters Bryant has compiled 21.6 WAR in 3 seasons and to Ozuna's 14.2 in 5. Ozuna has a had 1 year over 4 WAR, Bryant has had 3 over 6. Ozuna has posted 3 years of a wRC+ over 130, Ozuna did it once in 2017. You're statement is ludicrous on it's face.

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    Here is the list of players with a higher fWAR since Kris Bryant (21.6) has joined the Cubs

    Mike Trout

    This concludes the list of players with a higher fwar. Who are the only players who have been more valuable ages 23-25 since 1900

    Mickey Mantle
    Ty Cobb
    Lou Gehrig
    Babe Ruth
    Rogers Hornsby
    Jimmie Fox
    Willie Mays
    Albert Pujols **
    Tris Speaker
    Mike Trout **
    Eddie Collins
    Ron Santo
    Hank Aaron
    Barry Bonds *
    Cal Ripken
    Arky Vaughan
    Alex Rodriguez *
    Joe DiMaggio
    Grady Sizemore *

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    ** Still active
    Notable players below Bryant over the past three years

    Altuve - 18.9
    Harper - 17.7
    Goldschmidt - 17.4
    Stanton - 12.6
    Ozuna - 8.7
    Heyward - 8.6

    Bryant's ranks since entering baseball in terms of value added (via Fangraphs)

    Offense - 126.3 (5th in MLB)
    Defense - 20.4 (45th; the only other top 30 hitters who are also top 50 fielder: Mookie Betts, Justin Turner, Corey Seagar, Nolan Arenado)
    Base running - 19.2 (5th in MLB)

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    Dear lord man, if you think Ozuna is a better player than Bryant or Rizzo you're certifiably insane.

    Just for starters Bryant has compiled 21.6 WAR in 3 seasons and to Ozuna's 14.2 in 5. Ozuna has a had 1 year over 4 WAR, Bryant has had 3 over 6. Ozuna has posted 3 years of a wRC+ over 130, Ozuna did it once in 2017. You're statement is ludicrous on it's face.
    Don't you remember man, last year on the team with the NL MVP, Ozuna and the Marlins won soooooo many games. Like 77 of them.

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    The Marlins are acting like they have a bunch of old veterans and need a rebuild. To me it looked like they only needed some pitching. Could have signed a new #1 with Straily and Urena as #2 and #3. Starlin Castro is still good and is coming off of his 4th all star appearance but they still gave away Stanton, Ozuna and Gordon.

    Last season:

    Stanton 27 years old and MVP (traded)
    Ozuna 27 years old and 2016 and 2017 all star (traded)
    Gordon 29 years old and a former all star and one of the better lead off hitters (traded)
    Realmuto 26 years old and one of the better hitting catchers
    Yelich 26 years old is solid and a potential all star
    Bour 29 yeas old and competed in the home run derby

    I don't think a team like that needs a rebuild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears253313 View Post
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    The Marlins are acting like they have a bunch of old veterans and need a rebuild. To me it looked like they only needed some pitching. Could have signed a new #1 with Straily and Urena as #2 and #3. Starlin Castro is still good and is coming off of his 4th all star appearance but they still gave away Stanton, Ozuna and Gordon.

    Last season:

    Stanton 27 years old and MVP (traded)
    Ozuna 27 years old and 2016 and 2017 all star (traded)
    Gordon 29 years old and a former all star and one of the better lead off hitters (traded)
    Realmuto 26 years old and one of the better hitting catchers
    Yelich 26 years old is solid and a potential all star
    Bour 29 yeas old and competed in the home run derby

    I don't think a team like that needs a rebuild.
    What their rebuilding is the payroll...
    They can care less about who on the field right now.

    They paid a billion dollars for the team, im sure their only concern right now is how to stay above the red line the first few years til they start getting their money back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears253313 View Post
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    The Marlins are acting like they have a bunch of old veterans and need a rebuild. To me it looked like they only needed some pitching. Could have signed a new #1 with Straily and Urena as #2 and #3. Starlin Castro is still good and is coming off of his 4th all star appearance but they still gave away Stanton, Ozuna and Gordon.

    Last season:

    Stanton 27 years old and MVP (traded)
    Ozuna 27 years old and 2016 and 2017 all star (traded)
    Gordon 29 years old and a former all star and one of the better lead off hitters (traded)
    Realmuto 26 years old and one of the better hitting catchers
    Yelich 26 years old is solid and a potential all star
    Bour 29 yeas old and competed in the home run derby

    I don't think a team like that needs a rebuild.
    I agree, but neither the former ownership nor the current owners could afford that pitching and for the latter I place blame squarely on MLB. Their break even point in terms of payroll, according to reports, is about $95 mil but sometimes you invest in your team and try to increase attendance by winning. Their attendance in 2017 was 1.5 million which was only better than Tampa Bay who play in a shithole of a stadium compared to the Marlins swanky new digs. So what does MLB do? They sell a team to an ownership group that paid $279 million more for the club than it was worth according to Forbes (some estimates have the overpay much higher at closer to $400 mil) and are highly leveraged on top of that. All this because baseball was jizzing itself to get Jeter back in the game. It's fucking shameful.

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