WestsideResider
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When we get blown out at home vs the Browns the stink will be too much for Pace to escape and he'll have to go to along with Fox
He can fire him whenever he wants.
And if he did want to fire fox and they didn't allow it, he's a fucking pussy if he doesn't quit.
Pace is not getting fired, period.
It's more likely that Fox returns than Pace gets fired and neither will happen.
Anyone suggesting Pace will be fired is eith ignoring or football ignorant of how much better the personnel on this team is versus the aged, zero talent, zero depth, zero locker room discipline team he took over. The first coaching hire was almost assured to be sacrificial due to the inevitable poor record. Fox still was a good hire for the 1st 2 years to get legitimacy back to the staff and around the league with players and coaches and he probably could have 8 and 8'ed his way to a 4th year, but he seems to have almost scuttled his own tenure. Maybe his home is completed in The Villages retirement community and he just wants to play bocce ball and pickle ball with his peers.
The roster was already blown up by Pace and is slowly being rebuilt. You want to start that all over again? Because that is literally how you remain the Chicago Browns. Wake. The. Fuck. Up. GM continuity is beyond necessary to stop this shit.
Not firing an incompetent GM is how you become the Detroit Lions. Matt Millen had a winning percentage of .270 and control for 7 years. Currently Pace is on track to match or even do worse than that. Your logic is severely flawed.
You're drawing a parallel where there is none chief. Show me a single GM in the NFL that turned over 49 of 53 players on an NFL roster in 3 years and had that team competing for the division or playoffs in that short of a span? Because in case you haven't noticed bub, that is exactly the position the Bears are in. I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH. IT'S LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO REPLACE FORTY-FUCKING-NINE PLAYERS WITH NFL STARTER TIER TALENT IN THREE GOD DAMNED YEARS.
^ I appreciate the links. Cool site, and I love me some data. It helps but certainly doesn't say it all, especially with a coaching staff so unbelievably reluctant to let rookies get in the game until forced to by injuries or terrible play by the senior starters...Langford>Howard, Simms>Sheehan, etc.
As to why there is so little starting talent lost.... The last two seasons have been in such flux due to starters going down so early...backups everywhere & gum up the stats when they don't stick in the off-season. 1 year prove-it deals are also FAR more common with Bears in rebuild mode than most other teams.
Fully agree with xer0h0ur both in content and huge font stressing it. :yep:
When Pace formulates a plan he usually succeeds. Even when his plan misses he still comes out on the good side, see Trubisky being better now than Pace planned.
Please explain further...
Yet none of these coaches could be or were interviewed until season's completion, so it matters not.
What is the point of firing Fox other than making you feel better?
Do you think Loggains or Fangio are potential HC's?
Do you think they are even capable of conducting themselves as a HC for 4 weeks?
What advantage do they present? Loggains can't even throw together a game plan beyond his scripted 15.
Fangio has his hands full just trying to make his defense not turn to shit.
As bad as Fox is those two could somehow even be worse in the last 4 weeks.
When Pace formulates a plan he usually succeeds. Even when his plan misses he still comes out on the good side, see Trubisky being better now than Pace planned.
You and I completely agree. I think Ryan Pace will get a contract that matches up with whatever coach he hires.
And the media who wants Pace out as well as idiot fans who want to fire everyone every year so we can be like the Browns will be up in arms melting down and it will be glorious.
The truth of it though is that you are right. Everything will be on the line now as Pace will have his quarterback and his head coach. His future will absolutely be tied to those two and if they can't turn it around in the time frame of the head coach's contract, they will have everything all lined up for a clean sweep, which frankly is how a well-run organization is supposed to do it.
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The fact of the matter is, xer0hours claims are ambiguous at best. The Bears aren't "turning over" their roster at such a higher rate than normal, as he suggests.
Then there is the point that roster turnover is generally done to improve the roster, not just for roster turnovers sake. So, with such a high turnover rate (in his words, not mine) the Bears should be a significantly better team then they were 3 years ago. If not, that is not an argument that can be made in defense of Pace, just the opposite is true.
The record just doesn't support this excuse.
There is zero ambiguity to the fact only 4 players remain on the team Ryan Pace inherited. That is exactly what is meant by blowing up a team's roster. This is why people expecting this team to be far along already is beyond unrealistic. It was a complete team rebuild from the ground up. Its going to take time.