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CSF77 said:

Sounds like there is internal debate on the 26th man on Saturday. Joe thinks Monty has earned the right to it. Others think Alozay in a piggyback game.

I honestly would give it to Underwood as a piggyback game. He has earned it the most.

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beckdawg said:

Heyward is on the DL. If he were available I doubt you'd even see Happ play tonight. The comments about his arm were behind the idea of him seeing more than spot starts at a position. Just because a guy makes spots starts at a position doesn't mean he is good enough to play the position regularly. So, to say his arm is "fine" because he is making 1 start in RF is being ignorant of context. The last 2 seasons, Zobrist has been -9.4 UZR/150 and -9.1 and Maddon still plays him in RF because it's what he has to do to get him on the field.

If your argument is essentially saying why isn't Happ in CF rather than RF, my assumption there would be that he sees the kind of value Almora is right now in CF and doesn't want to mess with it. It also could be a field thing. Off the top of my head I don't know Atlanta's OF dimensions but if they have a bigger OF they may want Almora in CF because of that.

Either way, I don't really see the point because you can literally put anyone at any position for one game. That doesn't really determine that they are capable of playing the position well.

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CubsFaninMN said:

Seeing as Monty pitched last night, a start on Saturday would be on three days' rest. Granted, he didn't pitch four-plus last night, but still, I sort of doubt he'll see a start only three days after last pitching.

I'd guess it will be Underwood or Alzolay. Doubtful we'd see Tseng start again this soon.

Anyone know who is actually starting for Iowa tonight? And who started last night? I'd guess either one would be out for Saturday, as well...

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chibears55 said:

Alzolay will start Saturday and Montgomery will follow if needed...

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CSF77 said:

what you want or do you have source?

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chibears55 said:

I'm not arguing anything..lol
You're making this into something it not..

My OP was just to point out ..
hey look who in RF today..
it Ian Happ, the guy I was told would NEVER play RF because he has a weak arm for RF..
When I was suggesting he'd be in RF and Almora in CF if they were to rest Heyward ..

That all , nothing more nothing less
Lol

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chibears55 said:

What i think will happen

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CSF77 said:

Metrics have him plus on range and below avg on arm. But even there is is based off who you read.

I really don’t think there is enough data on him out there to get past speculation.

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Omeletpants said:

Your hatred for Happ is transparent and you take every opportunity to rip Happ and prop up Almora. Be honest and just admit it

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beckdawg said:

You don't really need data. Look at what the team does with players. They will tell you what their scouts feel. Scouting on Happ's arm coming out and in the minors was basically a 50-55 grade. Prototypical RF arm are 60+. CF is usually 50+ though if you have good range you can get by with less. Anything else usually ends up in LF. It's the same reason Happ doesn't play 3B or SS basically at all despite being able to play 2B.

Ultimately, if they thought he was an average RF he wouldn't have moved to 2B in the minors and he likely would have been drafted higher to begin with. That was the biggest question on him coming out of the draft. People weren't sure where to play him. His arm and bat weren't prototypical RF. He wasn't as fast as most CF. And he wasn't experienced much at 2B. There was LF but teams really don't like making guys into LF that early because there's not much value there unless like Schwarber you have a potential monster bat. Scouting on him obviously was a decent bat but not MVP caliber.

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Omeletpants said:

Your hatred for Happ is transparent and you take every opportunity to rip Happ and prop up Almora. Be honest and just admit it

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CSF77 said:

I really don't get into Happ arguments because he is barely cutting it right now. If he was producing like last year then this would be a better topic vs just seeing him in on a sub day.

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chibears55 said:

What the F#@$ are you talking about..

LMFAO..

where do you get any negative comment about Happ in what i wrote..

Wow.. go to bed

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chibears55 said:

What the F#@$ are you talking about..

LMFAO..

where do you get any negative comment about Happ in what i wrote..

Wow.. go to bed

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CSF77 said:

It makes sense to keep Underwood on reg. for thurs. Friday use Ryan to space out the starters. Ferrell on Sat. The problem would be Alzolay on a 1 day short start. His regular day would be sunday. But you have to figure one of him and Tseng. IDK Tseng is more expendable right now honestly.

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