Rowekwon Smith highest rated rookie defender

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Wow, nice---Imagine when they actually play an honest-to-God NFL football game.
 

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Amos and Fuller are proven top end talent now?

An argument can be made about Fuller since he only has one great year on the ledger but Amos had back to back great seasons. You bet your ass Amos at this point is a proven top end talent.
 

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Hard to gauge defensive backs with anything other than the eye test unless they're big-time interceptors or pass deflectors, but Amos' overall defensive value is listed #24 among all defensive backs in the NFL in this random fantasy list: https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/db-cheatsheets.php .

That ain't too shabby.

1 Landon Collins NYG S1 9 1 9 1.9 2.4
2 Keanu Neal ATL S2 8 1 7 2.6 1.6
3 Reshad Jones MIA S3 11 2 3 2.7 0.5
4 Harrison Smith MIN S4 10 4 20 7.1 5.8
Tier 2
5 Karl Joseph OAK S5 7 6 99 16.6 27.5
6 Barry Church JAC S6 9 6 40 11.2 9.9
7 Tony Jefferson BAL S7 10 6 89 16.8 24.4
8 Johnathan Cyprien TEN S8 8 4 47 13.8 15.4
9 Morgan Burnett PIT S9 7 5 27 11.4 5.9
10 Jordan Poyer BUF S10 11 4 24 12.7 4.8
11 Hasean Clinton-Dix GB S11 7 6 73 21.5 23.9
Tier 3
12 Tyrann Mathieu HOU S12 10 11 52 20.1 14.3
13 Jamal Adams NYJ S13 11 7 93 24.9 25.2
14 Sean Davis PIT S14 7 3 25 15.0 6.1
15 Micah Hyde BUF S15 11 8 34 20.1 8.2
16 Eric Weddle BAL S16 10 14 90 28.3 21.8
17 Eric Reid FA S17 13 400 66.5 126.3
18 Budda Baker ARI S18 9 1 24 12.8 7.8
Tier 4
19 Lamarcus Joyner LAR S19 12 4 45 19.3 12.5
20 Kevin Byard TEN S20 8 4 55 22.8 16.0
21 Antoine Bethea ARI S21 9 9 30 19.5 6.1
22 John Johnson LAR S22 12 6 49 24.5 15.8
23 Andrew Sendejo MIN S23 10 10 23 19.2 4.7
24 Adrian Amos CHI S24 5 12 55 25.2 14.0
 

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Clinton-Dix being on that list is a joke. He had a bad season. He also wasn't even remotely deserving of being on the NFL Top 100 list.
 

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It's always interesting how despite tons of stats being available, so few of them are relevantly known by the public, media, or other players.

Subjective "gut" opinions and big names still dominate popularity contests like the joke of "Top 100 players". Even Pro-Bowl is pretty bad.


I'm actually really surprised Cohen go so much love as a rookie. Dude's electric, but the fact he's known by many outside of CHI is cool. His charistmatic interviews can't hurt either. Not sure I've heard Fuller talk yet.
 

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It's always interesting how despite tons of stats being available, so few of them are relevantly known by the public, media, or other players.

Subjective "gut" opinions and big names still dominate popularity contests like the joke of "Top 100 players". Even Pro-Bowl is pretty bad.


I'm actually really surprised Cohen go so much love as a rookie. Dude's electric, but the fact he's known by many outside of CHI is cool. His charistmatic interviews can't hurt either. Not sure I've heard Fuller talk yet.

I mean Cohen totaled 1600+ all purpose yards in relatively limited play. Alvin Kamara, the toast of the town among NFL rookies this past season totaled 2000+ yards. If Cohen had received the same amount of touches he potentially could have outdone him. IMO that is why Tarik raised eyebrows.
 

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I love Miller's confidence and I hope he pans out. However, if he is as good as he thinks he is, this guy is a prime candidate for TO syndrome.

Ain't TO goin to the HoF eventually, if not soon ?
 

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Ain't TO goin to the HoF eventually, if not soon ?

? TO was voted in for this summer's HoF class of 2018. Although if you want to be a stickler you can say he isn't going to the HoF since he's sour grapes about not being a first ballot HoFer so he's refusing to attend his enshrinement.
 

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Ain't TO goin to the HoF eventually, if not soon ?

Yeah but he was also a team cancer and a douche. Queue Singletary's speech. There are plenty of HOF WRs that were all around positive for the team - i.e. Rice, Harrison, Reed, Swan, ect.
 

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Actually I think none of this applies anyway because I see no evidence of Miller being a cancerous influence in the lockerroom or to his teammates.
 

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Speaking of TO, he still wants to play and can still run a 4.45 40. Inlove that TO told the HOF to go suck it. They want to black ball him, he gets the last laugh.
 

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Speaking of TO, he still wants to play and can still run a 4.45 40. Inlove that TO told the HOF to go suck it. They want to black ball him, he gets the last laugh.

The hall is bigger than a damn TO. It won't effect them any. TO gets to live the rest of his life bitter and deservedly so.
 

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