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RRH is probably the Bears 2nd best interior pass rusher.
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I would say Nichols look as good if not better.
And RRH isn't a great penetrator against the run. But I love his overall package. He sheds well and hold his position well and is effective as a pass rusher.
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Those measurements aren’t accurate he’s 305+ In a pinch they have him play there but Fangio is putting him in a position to exceed and use his talents while still learning
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It was a heads up letting you know its a part of the enforced rules now. I didn't know using that word was prohibited.
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You know Nichols is a rookie right? Are you talking about his play at Delaware?
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I think it was pretty widely reported that he was more effective as one gap player in 2016 compared to playing two gap in 2017. Yes, with Delaware.
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First off nichols was basically a nose tackle in 2017 in fact from the highlights, all i saw was a change in responsibility. he was asked to hold more blockers over penetrating and when you say looked better in what way ? He looked good enough to play nose tackle but like everyone who plays that position all stats go to fucking high hell. Everything you've said eludes the truth when it comes to people who actually know anything about the Xs and Os of football. Go rewatch both of his tackles for loss from Arizona and bucs he doesn't shoot the gap right away. He isn't a 3 technique, a 1 gap only player he has lined up all over the interior from 0 to 5. RRH has 3 times the snaps of Nichols. RRH gets the most 1 on 1 blocks or close to an olb opposite mack. I like rrh but he had to gain so much weight in a short time i don't see a guy who has weighted 300 pounds his whole football life. He will eventually be strong enough for his position and weight class but because he had to transition from an outside guy to an interior player he isn't as strong as you would like.
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I wish I could understand you but your writing is unclear. Here is the video of Nichols blowing up Jones. He's blowing through the A gap, too quick to be blocked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlez9HFeK3E
Notice the announcer saying "that's just get off."
Against Arizona in his TFL he was shaded on the strong side of the center and basically went unblocked.
8:23 of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZwqaIHFXgM
He's better at penetrating right now, and he played better than way in college. That's not to say he won't get better at that and he will definitely play more as he grows. He's strong, good hands, and really explosive off the ball. Here's the Bears area scout discussing him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bpTgYP1RZ8 "Probably will be a 3 position back up for us." Penetrator.
RRH isn't close to as explosive off the ball, but he's very good using his hands and length and he's getting strong. Here's some film of his:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyyAuJQX_u8
Against the run, he's mostly taking on blocks and doing it pretty well.
I think Nichols will be the better player. But I think and hope both are with the Bears for a long time because they are both really good players.
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Im pretty sure Nichols is stronger than RRH and Bullard and would hold up "in the trash" better. The word out of Delaware, from what i read was that he played NT because he was the only player on the team capable in the coaches 3-4 scheme. They obviously didn't do him any favors, bcuz his stats suffered, its safe to say if he played DT that final season he likely would have piled up some stats and gone by the 3rd round at the latest. I see him as a 1st round guy who was penalized draft stock wise by where they played him and where he played. Lucky for the Bears tho.
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He did a great job staying home on a screen against Tampa I wish I could find video of it. It's one thing to have his explosiveness and size, but good schemes can take advantage of that by baiting out over-penetration. To see him stay disciplined though and have the presence of mind to make a read and react...very exciting. I am fine with him being a rotational player for now, simply because RRH and Bullard are both good players and keeping everyone fresh keeps them all playing better, but Nichols is clearly destined for a big role.
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I agree captn. While he clearly excels getting up field, and isn't overly wide by NFL standards, I think that year of dirty work at Delaware serves us well and shows his willingness to do what is necessary in scheme. Surely he learned about getting off blocks and staying home...just increasing his adjustment to different tasks he needs to do at NFL level. Versatile young lineman with explosion!! He reminds of a defensive version of Daniels.
Bears depth is as exciting as early success. Hold onto our butts after the Jets game though, Trubs has a bit to learn yet.
Bears depth is as exciting as early success. Hold onto our butts after the Jets game though, Trubs has a bit to learn yet.
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