Mitch played great but one thing I keep seeing ...

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There are plays that you stare down. Depending where the read is and knowing what coverage is being played. The TD to Robinson is one of them. Mitch just had to make sure his guy had him beat before throwing it. There’s been plenty of times Trubisky has played off the safety. He just didn’t make the throw after it.


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watch the TD to Bellamy and where all his eyes went, he went through at least 3 reads
 

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btw if you watch the all throws video, the one that scared me was the screen he tried to throw into a crowd, almost a disaster, that's one he has to throw into the ground or take off running...
 

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The guy doesn't like to take his eyes off of his 1st read. An example was the Robinson TD yesterday. Sure, he made an absolutely beautiful pass that Robinson caught but I noticed that Howard was wide open and could have walked it in had Mitch passed it to him instead of lobbing it to Robinson in tight coverage.

I hope he improves in this because against better defenses he'll be left running for his life or (as before), forcing a throw into tight coverage.
AR was his first read, so if his first read has leverage he isn't suppose to move to his second read. And Nagy said MT actually mentioned JH being wide open the second he walked off the field after the TD. So he did see it.

Just sayin'
 

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Watch the wheel route to Cohen, he goes through his progressions beautifully.
 

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what the shit are you on about? nobody here thinks they could QB the bears. what does that have to do with anything?

My reply came off way too harsh. Just the OP (& a truck load of others during the past few weeks of armchair qbs commenting) seemed to be presumptuous (I took it as such—the OP seems like a good guy) and so off I went, all righteous. I had thought I was being clever... but, it seems, I was just an ass.

Twice humbled by you sir. Same day.

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There's a difference between how I and some others discuss topics here. Maybe you're used to the other sort of never-ending-personal-attacks on one another that make reading posts here an annoying task. (which is why I don't post much)

Lighten up a bit.... not all of us hate each other or think you're stupid if you don't agree with me.

To you too, I apologize. You wrote nothing wrong.

I was still reeling from Aussie bear’s surprise porn of the morn!


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Look at Mahomes, he is throwing to his first read play in play out. The key is for Nagy and crew to out smart the defense. This is the simplification Nagy is talking about. Have the coaches do all the thinking and Mitch just see first read, throw first read if not covered up.
 

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btw if you watch the all throws video, the one that scared me was the screen he tried to throw into a crowd, almost a disaster, that's one he has to throw into the ground or take off running...

Scary but he didn’t try to throw it into a crowd. He did. And nailed the pass. The screen was just blown up. I’d rather he’d not take that risk though.


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Isn't the idea of having first reads that if your first read is good to go that's the one you go with? I thought Nagy said something like that.
If you run through all your reads before deciding which one is the best to take the field has changed.

Think of them as Plan A, Plan B, Plan C, Plan D. If plan A works you don't go to plan B.

Not only this, quarterbacks are usually taught to read the play from deep to short. So if the deeper route is open he has no reason to be looking short. Obviously this isn't always the case as there are designed plays where its meant to go to the first read which isn't always the deep option.
 

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The guy doesn't like to take his eyes off of his 1st read. An example was the Robinson TD yesterday. Sure, he made an absolutely beautiful pass that Robinson caught but I noticed that Howard was wide open and could have walked it in had Mitch passed it to him instead of lobbing it to Robinson in tight coverage.

I hope he improves in this because against better defenses he'll be left running for his life or (as before), forcing a throw into tight coverage.

False.


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I wonder if other teams' fans also like to criticize their QBs for beautiful TD passes.

OP is saying if AR dropped that pass the conversation could've gone negative. Well, congratulations, he didn't drop it but you still found a way to make the conversation negative.

Instead of saying "what a beautiful, pinpoint accurate, aggressive pass", you choose to bring up the fact that someone else was open on the play. Never mind the fact that Howard was still at the 10 yard line and may or may not have gotten a TD.
 

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Yeah, but he knew he was going to Bellamy all along. Pump fake short was to suck the DB up...

Nice read, sell, and throw by Trubs...

Good scheming too. We've shown that screen to Cohen look a few times in different games, and I'm sure the Tampa D saw it on film
 

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modo, what is a wheel route?
 

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In my view the Bucs did apply pressure, but the O line played well and prevented the pressure from getting to Trubisky.
 

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some people here must have a different tv-lol I cant tell all the reads is doing
 

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modo, what is a wheel route?


receiver goes out...turns left or right as if to do an in or out route and then turns it upfield.......typically one or two receivers will be short as an out throw if the wheel route is covered.....that is a read on one side of the field with a deep guy and a short guy like a rb or a wr coming from the inside as a short out route....

They had cohen as the short guy and drew a double team a couple times...

below...yellow route is a wheel route.....post is in green as an alternate down field read....


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modo, thank you for explaining that so well.
 

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You have to be able to look past all the 'but so and so was open' arguments.

That play showed the most growth I have seen from Trubs yet. It was a thing of beauty.

Defense was in a cover 2. Cohen was the outside receiver, AR to the inside. Cohen and AR ran a crossing pattern, Cohen a post, AR a corner route. Cohen drew his corner and the safety help on the post route, leaving AR in a one on one with a step on his defender. Trubisky threw the ball before AR broke to the corner, while AR was still facing inside. That's an elite throw when you can beat your WR to the spot.

I sat here and listened to all the Trubisky playing scared talk and for once he makes and excellent read and an excellent throw, and people bitch that he didn't make the safe throw.

Against elite defenses that throw to Howard in the flats won't be there which is why guys like Brady and Rodgers make their money on making throws like Mitch made. He has to learn to make those throws if he stands any chance at excelling in this league and we need to celebrate them.
 

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