Would You Consider Trading Bryant?

Parade_Rain · Oct 3, 2018

anotheridiot said:
Did the rest and therapy work?

Dumb Question. The therapy obviously worked.

anotheridiot said:
Did the new swing work?

Yes. The new swing worked. What did you expect from a swing retool in the middle of the season along with a late entry coming back toward the end of the season?

anotheridiot said:
Do you need a degree to see there is a problem?

It would be nice if you got a 8th grade diploma.

anotheridiot said:
He missed 60 games. How many weeks was he off? so no baseball for 6 months and his shoulder will be fine for 162 games 40 homers and 100 RBI's next year?

Yes. It's called rest and thereapy, which rest was not a ton of the agenda during the season/rehab.

anotheridiot said:
Surgery was an option when it was first injured and he did not want it. Rest and therapy was an option. Rest and therapy did not work. So just another hope and prayer that it will work again. Real world, something does not work, you try something else.

I've stated this already. The MRI came back clean. What are you operating on?

Parade_Rain · Oct 3, 2018

anotheridiot said:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...cubs-kris-bryant-shoulder-20180727-story.html

clean? the second one verified the re-occurrence of inflamation.

Inflammation does not indicate surgery. It's like you don't know anything.

zack54attack · Oct 3, 2018

No. I'm not trading him.

I'd only trade him if I got someone like Trout, Sale, Kershaw in the deal and that's not going to happen. Not doing it for prospects.

anotheridiot · Oct 3, 2018

So the experts here think Therapy and rest worked. Its funny, I dont remember KB doing squat in september or october. OK, well .270 2 home runs 8 RBi, with 32 K in those 84 at bats. Boy, thats stellar. That month of rest and therapy worked. Good thought.

I mean, it is baseball, right? That is what we should be thinking about. This guy wants 30 million a year, not to be 2016, but what we got in 2017 and 2018. Yes, he was injured on 2018, so, well, surgery is not the next step?

I am not saying to trade him, I am saying they need to fix him.

fatbeard · Oct 3, 2018

anotheridiot said:
So the experts here think Therapy and rest worked. Its funny, I dont remember KB doing squat in september or october. OK, well .270 2 home runs 8 RBi, with 32 K in those 84 at bats. Boy, thats stellar. That month of rest and therapy worked. Good thought.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

anotheridiot said:
I mean, it is baseball, right? That is what we should be thinking about. This guy wants 30 million a year, not to be 2016, but what we got in 2017 and 2018. Yes, he was injured on 2018, so, well, surgery is not the next step?

Surgery is the next step if surgery is medically appropriate and necessary. You don't know that. You can't know that. Only the Cubs team doctor knows that. So just shut up about it already. You're an emotionally upset fan who wants "action" to feel better. Grow up.

Parade_Rain · Oct 3, 2018

anotheridiot said:
So the experts here think Therapy and rest worked. Its funny, I dont remember KB doing squat in september or october. OK, well .270 2 home runs 8 RBi, with 32 K in those 84 at bats. Boy, thats stellar. That month of rest and therapy worked. Good thought.
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It's almost like he missed a significant portion of the season and couldn't get comfortable at the plate when he came back. Shame on him. That never happens at the MLB level.

Omeletpants · Oct 3, 2018

Bryant is one of the most overrated players in MLB. Cubs would be crazy to pay him 25M/yr

TL1961 · Oct 3, 2018

Omeletpants said:
Bryant is one of the most overrated players in MLB. Cubs would be crazy to pay him 25M/yr

Bryant is actually underrated.

Cubs offense with a healthy, productive Bryant was #1 scoring offense in all of MLB.

He gets hurt, and they are # 25.

Not the only factor, but his impact is tremendous, yet many can't see it.

TL1961 · Oct 3, 2018

fatbeard said:
Half-baked plans are the best plans.

It's like reading the Cards' forum. Every day there is a thread stating that "PlayerX is terrible. They should trade him for <Insert name of superstar here>" Player X would change day to day, but there was always a Mike Trout or Chris Sale coming back.

Diehardfan · Oct 3, 2018

omeletpants said:
Harper is one of the most overrated players in mlb. Cubs would be crazy to pay him 25m/yr

fify

Diehardfan · Oct 4, 2018

Parade_Rain said:
Inflammation does not indicate surgery. It's like you don't know anything.

Inflammation, hmmm. Does this mean that if a player got concussed that Dr. Idiot would call for brain surgery?

fatbeard · Oct 4, 2018

What does that Theo guy know, anyway?

Spunky Porkstacker · Oct 4, 2018

Bryant was asked after the loss the other night and said no surgery, just strengthening during the offseason...said he'll be ready for spring training.

Bearsgonewild · Oct 10, 2018

Bryant observation. He said he tried to 2 hand his swing after his injury. He came back and did not do as well.

Physics. You cannot change 1 thing, with out at least considering complementary changes. For every action/equal and opposite reaction thing.

To my eyes, he did not get around as well with 2 hands. For the 2 handed swing that he wants (to protect his shoulder), he should open up his stance a bit, and set his legs closer together. This would allow his hips to rotate easier, and not have his upper body and lower body fight each other.

Kyle Schwarber, I would like him to adopt a more traditional baseball (see Ben Zobrist, but he's kinda extreme - specifically holding the bat closer to his shoulder/ear) stance, and not look like a pot bellied, backwards hat wearing softball slugger out there.

New hitting coach next year for sure.

JosMin · Oct 10, 2018

Parade_Rain said:
Inflammation does not indicate surgery. It's like you don't know anything.

Probably because he isn't a doctor.

chibears55 · Oct 10, 2018

garapp said:
A year ago I would have thought no way, but I'm tired of strikeouts in key situations.

I would have to get a lot in return, but if some team was willing to part with an SP and decent position player, I would consider it.

And yes, I know Kris was hurt this year

Not this year but if he not going to sign an extension ( he supposedly turned down 200 mil offer), then yes he could end up being a trade piece before he hits FA in 3 yrs

TC in Mississippi · Oct 11, 2018

Could we stop with the "2017 was a bad year for Kris Bryant" talk? That's insane. His 2016 numbers were .292/.385/.554 .396 wOBA 148 wRC+, in 2017 they were .295/.409/.537 .399 wOBA 146 wRC+. He was a 7.9 WAR player in 2016 and 6.7 in 2017. Funny how those numbers are nearly identical huh?

SilenceS · Oct 11, 2018

TC in Mississippi said:
Could we stop with the "2017 was a bad year for Kris Bryant" talk? That's insane. His 2016 numbers were .292/.385/.554 .396 wOBA 148 wRC+, in 2017 they were .295/.409/.537 .399 wOBA 146 wRC+. He was a 7.9 WAR player in 2016 and 6.7 in 2017. Funny how those numbers are nearly identical huh?

That doesn’t matter. I remember an at bat with a guy in scoring position and he struck out. I can only conclude he is not a clutch player from that

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anotheridiot · Oct 11, 2018

SilenceS said:
That doesn’t matter. I remember an at bat with a guy in scoring position and he struck out. I can only conclude he is not a clutch player from that

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He struck out 34 of his 89 at bats he got after he came back healed.

What was the original deal they talked about with the cubs matching up with the mets, was it DeGrom for Bryant or DeGrom and someone but they asked for Bryant?

fatbeard · Oct 11, 2018

anotheridiot said:
He struck out 34 of his 89 at bats he got after he came back healed.

What was the original deal they talked about with the cubs matching up with the mets, was it DeGrom for Bryant or DeGrom and someone but they asked for Bryant?

No idea what deal you're referring to.

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