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How ever can we replace someone who had such a positive impact? ?
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It was pretty clear this was going to happen after Epstein's postseason comments about launch angle and power. He's usually circumspect about things so soon after the season, but he was surprisingly adamant about that stuff.
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David Ross next hitting coach
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Good reporting here.
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Don't let the door hit your bum on the way out, mate.
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Who are we thinking in terms of candidates?
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Not sure we really should talk specific names because who knows specific hitting coaches? With that being said, I like the way houston works. Maybe that's players and not coaching. I also like the way cleveland hits. I'd hope to get some one from their org.
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Funny you mention this. Next time the fangraphs guys have a chat that i'm able to catch I was going to ask them if Willie Mays Hayes was ahead of his time with launch angle and only held back by his manager being stuck in the past lol
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I think the mistake was having Chili trying to change established swings. I think what he was teaching wasn't wrong, it was just at the wrong level. Teaching how to hit the other way, how to reduce strikeouts and to change approaches when there are two strikes are valuable lessons, but they need to be taught at AAA or lower.
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Bring back Bill Mueller.
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How about Andre Dawson?
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They were teaching players to swing down because they were getting attacked up in the zone. What the players were getting taught was flat out wrong.
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Does anyone else feel like this was something Maddon wanted more than the front office last year re: hiring Chili and that the front office threw him a bone? Because that's what this feels like to me. It seems like Chili's approach to hitting was in line with what Maddon wanted more so than the front office.
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They should look to hire someone who can actually teach, understands how the swing actually works and understands that fewer external cues are better. Too much cookie cutter stuff. Each player has his own DNA. The job doesn't require being a former pro.
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That was the major thing he was teaching that was definitely wrong. But he also taught them to go the other way more and to change their approach on two strikes which did reduce K's and increase AVG for about half the year, until they tuned him out.
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Yeah, that was an earth-shattering revelation Dan Bernstein uncovered. No one could foresee Chili being fired, especially after Theo's end-of-year presser. I am still in a state of shock over this happening.
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I don't know what that means.
I am not looking to bring in an icon. I want a guy who really has been / is a hitting coach.
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Until they tuned him out? If they tuned him out, they wouldn't have been the leaders of ground ball mania in the 2nd half.
