***OFFICAL*** Bears GM/Coaching Search News Thread

[remydat]

The problem with Daboll is did he just get lucky with Allen? For a guy who has been a coach for a while the only real sucess on his resume is Allen.

As a fan you can never know for sure how much of a QB's development is coaching and how much is the QB which is why I would prefer to have seen some success with someone else.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

The problem with Daboll is did he just get lucky with Allen? For a guy who has been been a coach for a while the only real sucess on his resume is Allen.

As a fan you can never know for show how much of a QB's development is coaching and how much is the QB which is why I would prefer to have seen some success with someone else.

Who else is out there that has successfully developed a QB? That should be one major qualifier for any potential HC.

 

[remydat]

Who else is out there that has successfully developed a QB? That should be one major qualifier for any potential HC.

You arent following. I repeat.

As a fan you can never know for sure how much of a QB's development is coaching and how much is the QB which is why I would prefer to have seen some success with someone else.

You cant be sure that Daboll really developed Allen or whether Allen would have developed with any decent OC. Which again is why it would have been good to see him have success outside Allen.

I would prefer someone that has had success with multiple QBs. That is my preference. You are free to prefer Daboll. To each his own.

 

[vanavyman]

Harbaugh wants to be GM/HC. Probably not an option unless there is no GM candidate Bears are in love with or if there is one willing to take a back seat.

If he does not get control of the 53 then Harbaugh will take more money to run the whole show at Michigan.

Where does it say he wants to be the GM too? He doesn't want to work for an ass like in SF. If it was someone he gets along with it might work.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

You arent following. I repeat.

As a fan you can never know for sure how much of a QB's development is coaching and how much is the QB which is why I would prefer to have seen some success with someone else.

You cant be sure that Daboll really developed Allen or whether Allen would have developed with any decent OC. Which again is why it would have been good to see him have success outside Allen.

I would prefer someone that has had success with multiple QBs. That is my preference. You are free to prefer Daboll. To each his own.

And I’m asking who’s available that’s had success with multiple QBs? You can only work with what’s available to you. I didn’t misunderstand anything.

 

[cameronkrazie86]

The problem with Daboll is did he just get lucky with Allen? For a guy who has been a coach for a while the only real sucess on his resume is Allen.

As a fan you can never know for sure how much of a QB's development is coaching and how much is the QB which is why I would prefer to have seen some success with someone else.

What encourages me is that he's been with Allen since he was drafted and he's gotten significantly better each year. The other guys he had were all journeymen guys, just good enough to be in the league but not someone whose had significant success anywhere else.

 

[vanavyman]

What encourages me is that he's been with Allen since he was drafted and he's gotten significantly better each year. The other guys he had were all journeymen guys, just good enough to be in the league but not someone whose had significant success anywhere else.

Not sure whose idea it was but Allen was taking dancing lessons for a couple years to help with his feet.

 

[westcoast bear fanatic]

Who else is out there that has successfully developed a QB? That should be one major qualifier for any potential HC.

The OC on the opposite sideline?

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

The OC on the opposite sideline?

I don’t think he wants to leave New England. I would not be upset if he got the job outside of his antics.

 

[cameronkrazie86]

Embarrassing Bill Belichick gets high points with me.

 

[remydat]

And I’m asking who’s available that’s had success with multiple QBs? You can only work with what’s available to you. I didn’t misunderstand anything.

Leftwich, Hackett for example. Also coaches like Frazier and Bowles have had success with multiple teams albeit on D.

 

[remydat]

What encourages me is that he's been with Allen since he was drafted and he's gotten significantly better each year. The other guys he had were all journeymen guys, just good enough to be in the league but not someone whose had significant success anywhere else.

Sure but did he elevate those journeymen? I want a coach that has succeeded with mutltiple teams. Whether on O or D.

 

[Rise]

Da bears da boll da bears da boll da bears da boll

 

[Shepard]

Harbaugh wants to be GM/HC. Probably not an option unless there is no GM candidate Bears are in love with or if there is one willing to take a back seat.

If he does not get control of the 53 then Harbaugh will take more money to run the whole show at Michigan.

I would agree. I also think Harbaugh is the type who would take a GM's input on a player and value his opinion as well.

I don't think you interview Harbaugh...I really don't. If you call him/his people and know he wants the job you just offer him after finding a price range of what it would take. Just my .02.

 

[dennehy]

Another question is how important is Dorsey to Allen's development?

Dorsey likely moves to BUF OC if Daboll leaves.

 

[cameronkrazie86]

Sure but did he elevate those journeymen? I want a coach that has succeeded with mutltiple teams. Whether on O or D.

This is fair and I had similar concerns until I looked into it.

2009, 2010 seasons the Browns improved their total points per game each season (though admittedly, only by a point or so each season). His QBs were Brady Quinn and Colt McCoy.

2011 - Miami went from 31st in the league in points per game to 20th in his lone season. His QB was Matt Moore who had the best season of his career by a long shot.

2012 - Put up basically the same point totals as the prior year though their defense was way worse than in 2011. QBs were Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn. Jamaal Charles had arguably the best season of his career. Of his OC tenure, this is the worst one.

Then with the Bills, they weren't very good years 1 and 2 but they had basically nothing at WR, and the ageless Frank Gore was their featured back. Once they upgraded at wide receiver and grabbed Singleton in the 3rd round, that was when they took off. Their #1 receiver in 2018 (John Brown) was their #4 WR in 2020. #2 in scoring points last year and #3 this year.

 

[Visionman]

Another question is how important is Dorsey to Allen's development?

Dorsey likely moves to BUF OC if Daboll leaves.

Or he goes with Daboll or Frazier when they become HCs…

 

[dennehy]

Or he goes with Daboll or Frazier when they become HCs…

Could be but why would he leave to coach under Daboll who is an offensive coach?

And why would he leave Allen? He's got a great org there, almost no chance he'd go imo.

 

[JesusHalasChrist]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1482547687845249024

Ossenfort is with the Titans.

 

[MakeMyDay]

I think Nate Hackett has a shot if Harbaugh is not in the picture