OT: Stafford: Great or Nah?

[Xuder O'Clam]

Stafford had the misfortune of Schwartz being his HC. Shit HC for a QB prospect. Caldwell was a slight improvement, and rocketboy was a serious downgrade. He's in a good place now, and taking advantage of it.

 

[Midway Fields]

Still one game to go.......

And you will hide again (l)

 

[remydat]

The turth about Stafford will be determined in the playoffs.

 

[Bearly]

Stafford had the misfortune of Schwartz being his HC. Shit HC for a QB prospect. Caldwell was a slight improvement, and rocketboy was a serious downgrade. He's in a good place now, and taking advantage of it.

Sort of an opposites scenario. McVay can seemingly make anyone look good so trying to determine the ultimate goodness of Stafford is still difficult.

 

[Sparks500]

I always liked Stafford, mostly because his team mates loved him. That’s always been my go to, if the guys around you will jump in front of a bus for you, that means something.
But, football is the ultimate team game, and a QB, no matter how good he is, will not win with an incomplete team, which the Lions and Bears always seem to be. Stafford is now on the most complete team he’s ever been and the results are evident, would not surprise me at all to see him hoisting a Lombardi in the not too distant future. Good for him, he’s earned it.

 

[jsu34]

Matt Stafford is way better than many here would give him credit for, which is why McVay made the trade he did.
He's not GOAT good, but he's NFL good.

 

[remydat]

Matt Stafford is way better than many here would give him credit for, which is why McVay made the trade he did.
He's not GOAT good, but he's NFL good.

McVay brought him there to win the SB. They were good and won playoff games without him. None of this matters until they win the SB.

 

[nc0gnet0]

No man. Stafford has had weapons, he has a defense and he has had time a yet not one damn playoff win? Elite players elevate teams and even organizations, only elevation Stafford does is a few fantasy football teams

this take is not aging well.......

 

[nc0gnet0]

Product of the system.

Stafford sub 90 QB rating. Losing record. He's a stat compiling loser. and a pussy

another failed hot take from the boards biggest know nothing.

 

[hyatt151]

He is just good enough to compete if his offense is stacked but always makes the huge boneheaded mistake that loses the game or kills a season.

He doesn’t have a clutch bone in his body.

However, he seems like a nice guy and I hope his wife stays cancer free.

statements like that often come back to haunt you, pretty fucking clutch last night

 

[PrideisBears]

this take is not aging well.......

All it took was the Rams trading away everything to build a super team for the guy

 

[hyatt151]

The turth about Stafford will be determined in the playoffs.

outplaying and taking out the GOAT is an awfully great start

 

[nc0gnet0]

All it took was the Rams trading away everything to build a super team for the guy

The last two years of the bucs were not "super teams"?

Matthew Stafford is exactly the game-changing QB the Rams thought he'd be

Matthew Stafford has been an absolute star in the playoffs, proving to be the missing piece for the Rams this year

theramswire.usatoday.com

 

[Visionman]

He is just good enough to compete if his offense is stacked but always makes the huge boneheaded mistake that loses the game or kills a season.

He doesn’t have a clutch bone in his body.

However, he seems like a nice guy and I hope his wife stays cancer free.

This. LA mortgaged their future to go all in for right now. Always said Stafford needed a complete team around him to find any real success. Now he has it. Let’s see if he can actually deliver when it counts though…

 

[PrideisBears]

The last two years of the bucs were not "super teams"?

Do the Bucs still have draft picks anytime this decade? The Bucs took aging or malcontent stars and had them play to their potential , the Rams trade away every thing for one shot at glory. I personally thought Lebron James was the GM

 

[Toast88]

By the time Stafford retires, he'll be top 5 all time in passing yards and probably at least top 6 in touchdowns.

Talk all you want about padding stats and the pass-happy era, etc. Anyone who gets into top 5 territory all time in passing yards and TDs is pretty damn good.

 

[Toast88]

Playing styles notwithstanding, Stafford is probably a pretty good blueprint for what we could see with Fields in the future---A good quarterback who everyone wonders if he's great, while continually being pulled down by a shitty team, shitty coaches and shitty owners.

 

[Leomaz]

He is just good enough to compete if his offense is stacked but always makes the huge boneheaded mistake that loses the game or kills a season.

He doesn’t have a clutch bone in his body.

However, he seems like a nice guy and I hope his wife stays cancer free.

Seemed pretty clutch yesterday.

 

[Visionman]

Playing styles notwithstanding, Stafford is probably a pretty good blueprint for what we could see with Fields in the future---A good quarterback who everyone wonders if he's great, while continually being pulled down by a shitty team, shitty coaches and shitty owners.

Stafford, especially in his Detroit years, was a never quite good enough QB being paid top dollar. That is why Detroit couldn’t build that team around him, horrible management aside. His contact prevented the team from being able to do the one thing he needed.

He has gotten better after a decade of experience in the league, and no doubt that has helped the Rams now. But QB salaries are even higher now. The WORST thing that can happen to a team is having a QB who is “good enough”. You either need a superstar, a guy on a rookie deal playing out of his mind, or a journeyman on the cheap with a complete team around him. There really isn’t an in-between…

 

[playthrough2001]

Seemed pretty clutch yesterday.

It only took a million years. He seems like a good guy. I’m happy for him.