*OFFICIAL* Offseason Rumors, Signings, and Shenanigans

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Nobody is saying they need an elite team around them, but nice try. Elite no, competent yes. Qb's tend to learn faster when they aren't constantly running for their life.
Are you assuming that the Bears will not even be competent at either WR or OL?
 

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So there weren't any good values after the 3rd round for WRs later in the draft? The Bears receiving corps is at the bottom of the NFL. Is this good for Justin Fields. And how do you know this defense obsessed organization won't go "BPA" and draft another defensive phenom with a high pick next year. And remember, most WRs take a year or two to develop, so it might not be until Field's fourth year that (hopefully) he finally has a decent WR group.
Why people feel compelled to defend Poles for ignoring (both in the draft and free agency) this team deficiency is beyond me.
So Poles didn't sign a single new WR? Odd. Seems to me you just wanted some flashy name over the moves Poles made. The dude has brought in a many WRs or OL, trying to find some worthy players in prove it deals. I'd think at the very least, whoever the #1 WR ends up being this year won't be sandbagging it all year like AR did.
 

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No, this is stupid

No actually. If you have a great OL then that encourages him to hold the ball longer looking for the big play. A bad OL means he has to get rid of the ball or he will be under pressure.

How so. If an OL can sustain blocks for 4 seconds, why would that encourage a QB to get rid of the ball?

Your logic is asinine. The longer an OL can hold blocks the more a QB who likes to throw deep like Fields is going to want to hold the ball waiting on a big play.

Nobody is saying they need an elite team around them, but nice try. Elite no, competent yes. Qb's tend to learn faster when they aren't constantly running for their life.

No one disputes QBs learn faster when they arent constantly running for their life, but nice try. I disputed your non-sensical position that QBs would get rid of the ball faster if an OL held their blocks longer.

The stupidity of your argument is conflating a good OL helping a QB develop with the idea it helps them get rid of the ball faster. Those are 2 different things. It helps them develop for other reasons bozo.
 
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The whole argument that a good defense helps a young QB develop is waayyyy overplayed. Sure it helps… a little. But not like surrounding the QB with players that actually directly affect his performance.

And the off-season includes more than the draft….

Pats have proven it twice with Brady and Jones. There was also Wilson and the Seahawks D. Big Ben and the Steelers. Hell even the Bills with Allen have built a No 1 D and took 3 years to get Diggs.

There is no one right answer on how to build a team. What team that has actually won a SB recently did so using your approach? Even KC doesnt count as they had Hill and Kelce before Mahomes and built that OL with a lot of late round picks. The bulk of their early round O picks have largely failed.
 
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The whole argument that a good defense helps a young QB develop is waayyyy overplayed. Sure it helps… a little. But not like surrounding the QB with players that actually directly affect his performance.

And the off-season includes more than the draft….
You are so wrong here. If the defense can’t stop anyone, that forces the offense to put it all on Fields shoulders to come back. And that is not how you develop a young QB. Quite the opposite.

You need a solid running game and good defense to take all the pressure off the QB, so he can focus on learning and growing in the offense. Do you need weapons too? Not course. And we have some. But it is not only about weapons unless you’re playing a video game…
 

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How so. If an OL can sustain blocks for 4 seconds, why would that encourage a QB to get rid of the ball?

Your logic is asinine. The longer an OL can hold blocks the more a QB who likes to throw deep like Fields is going to want to hold the ball waiting on a big play.



No one disputes QBs learn faster when they arent constantly running for their life, but nice try. I disputed your non-sensical position that QBs would get rid of the ball faster if an OL held their blocks longer.

The stupidity of your argument is conflating a good OL helping a QB develop with the idea it helps them get rid of the ball faster. Those are 2 different things. It helps them develop for other reasons bozo.
Fields isn’t going to hold the ball unless Getsy tells him to hold it.
 

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How so. If an OL can sustain blocks for 4 seconds, why would that encourage a QB to get rid of the ball?

Your logic is asinine. The longer an OL can hold blocks the more a QB who likes to throw deep like Fields is going to want to hold the ball waiting on a big play.



No one disputes QBs learn faster when they arent constantly running for their life, but nice try. I disputed your non-sensical position that QBs would get rid of the ball faster if an OL held their blocks longer.

The stupidity of your argument is conflating a good OL helping a QB develop with the idea it helps them get rid of the ball faster. Those are 2 different things. It helps them develop for other reasons bozo.
No, again, it's your argument that is so stupid it is asinine. Give it up. A decent O-line helps a QB make better decisions. The End. period. End of discussion.

This is pure speculative bullshit.

"The longer an OL can hold blocks the more a QB who likes to throw deep like Fields is going to want to hold the ball waiting on a big play."

Take your "L" and run along.

The less pressure a Qb is under, the more he is likely to execute the play as it is designed. If he is still holding the ball too long, he isn't learning a dam thing.
 
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No, again, it's your argument that is so stupid it is asinine. Give it up. A decent O-line helps a QB make better decisions. The End. period. End of discussion.

This is pure speculative bullshit.

"The longer an OL can hold blocks the more a QB who likes to throw deep like Fields is going to want to hold the ball waiting on a big play."

Take your "L" and run along.

The less pressure a Qb is under, the more he is likely to execute the play as it is designed. If he is still holding the ball too long, he isn't learning a dam thing.
Nobody has ever taken an L from you, I don't care what the discussion is.
 

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Interesting to see CEH so low considering his offense. No surprise to see the Bears backs so low considering the line.

CEH was a disastrous pick. Imagine that offense with Taylor. Or they could have went defense. Now their stuck with a non-explosive RB who can't get tough yards.
 

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So Poles didn't sign a single new WR? Odd. Seems to me you just wanted some flashy name over the moves Poles made. The dude has brought in a many WRs or OL, trying to find some worthy players in prove it deals. I'd think at the very least, whoever the #1 WR ends up being this year won't be sandbagging it all year like AR did.

Quantity over quality. I'm ok with taking a lot of swings and hoping to strike gold. But it would have been nice to bring in, either through the draft or free agency, some top quality WRs and O linemen.
 

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The whole idea that a GM must draft offense simply because our QB doesn’t suck is foolish.

Poles needs to fill a lot of holes on this roster. Fortunately, unlike many fans, he is well aware of that.
So we gonna just ignore FA as well? Cool. Let’s not put any significant resources into offense at all then…
 

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You are so wrong here. If the defense can’t stop anyone, that forces the offense to put it all on Fields shoulders to come back. And that is not how you develop a young QB. Quite the opposite.

You need a solid running game and good defense to take all the pressure off the QB, so he can focus on learning and growing in the offense. Do you need weapons too? Not course. And we have some. But it is not only about weapons unless you’re playing a video game…
Yeah, all those defense first teams CHI has had developed how many QBs again?
 

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