NFL Preseason keeps taking body blows

What becomes of the 2021 preseason?


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It seems destine for a TKO in the next CBA, but the owners will not give up the revenue with a replacement. What do you think the likely outcome?

Holy Injuries, Batman

Patriots get banged up, but why were they playing in a meaningless preseason game? - The Boston Globe

Shirley Leung

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But the Patriots almost lost their starting linebacker, a key member of a Super Bowl-winning defense, before the 2019 season even began. And it would have happened in a completely meaningless preseason game.
“Of course I was nervous,” Van Noy said after the game. “Of course it would be a bummer. It would be a bummer to get injured at any point. That’s the nature of our game. It happens, and you just want try your best to stay away from it.”
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The Patriots beat the Panthers on Thursday, 10-3, but when the regular season begins in 2½ weeks, no one will remember the score. The only aspect that mattered is the fact that the injury bug hit the Patriots hard, potentially throwing a wrench into the 2019 season before it even begins.
The most devastating injury of the night came to special teams ace Brandon King, who was carted off the field near the end of the second quarter with a significant leg injury. His teammates gathered around to wish him well and see him off, possibly for the last time this season.
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King, entering his fifth season with the Patriots, just signed a two-year extension this offseason. He earned a pay raise from $925,000 to $1.7 million and was going to be a leader of the Patriots’ special teams. And now he is potentially gone for the season, before it even begins.
If the Patriots are lucky, King’s injury was the only serious one. If they aren’t so lucky, they may have lost several key contributors for at least some amount of time.
Van Noy tweaked his knee. Veteran tight end Ben Watson suffered a potential concussion. Rookie running back Damien Harris limped off in the second quarter and didn’t return for the second half. Special teams ace Nate Ebner went into the medical tent for a spell. Rookie receiver Gunner Olszewski was shaken up in the fourth quarter. And tight end Lance Kendricks went to the locker room maybe 15 minutes after taking a shot over the middle.
The extent of the Patriots’ injuries were not immediately known after the game.
But it all seems so . . . pointless. The injuries once again call into question why starters need to be playing at all in the preseason.
The Panthers weren’t spared, either. Starting quarterback Cam Newton, playing for the first time all training camp as he returns from offseason shoulder surgery, went to the locker room after two series with an apparent left ankle injury suffered on a sack by Danny Shelton. Newton was in a walking boot after the game.
Much like nothing good happens after midnight, nothing good happens in the preseason — only injuries and ineffectiveness.
The third preseason game is supposed to be the big tune-up, the dry run for the regular season. Starters are supposed to play deep into the second quarter and even into the third.
That’s how it used to be in the old NFL, at least.
But today’s NFL is catching on to the pointlessness charade of the four-game preseason schedule.
The Colts plan to sit most of their starters for Saturday’s third preseason game. Same with the Rams, who didn’t play their starters in any of their four preseason games last year, either. It didn’t stop the Rams from going to the Super Bowl.
“Not to say there’s not an appreciation for what the preseason entails and playing real football,” Rams coach Sean McVay said earlier this week. “But when you look at some of the continuity now that we have on both sides of the ball coming back, and you say, ‘If something were to happen, is it really worth that risk in our mind?’ We just felt like that answer is no.”
The Patriots aren’t being quite that cautious this preseason, but Bill Belichick has noticeably dialed it back for many of his veterans. Tom Brady didn’t play in the first two preseason games, then lasted just three series on Thursday before Belichick smartly pulled him. That’s probably the first and only preseason action Brady will get.
But Belichick still gave his starters plenty of reps on Thursday night, and it led to a few dings.
“We’ve got to do what’s best for the team — get guys ready to play,” Belichick said.
The biggest injury may be to Harris, the rookie from Alabama. He looked great last week against Tennessee, averaging 5.7 yards per carry and catching all four targets. The Patriots drafted Harris in the third round for a reason, and he’s going to be a significant contributor to the Patriots’ offense, especially as a between-the-tackles runner. But those plans may have been altered by Harris’s unknown injury, which prevented him from joining his team on the sideline in the second half.
Patriots reserve quarterback Brian Hoyer was a DNP for the game by coach Bill Belichick.
Patriots reserve quarterback Brian Hoyer was a DNP for the game by coach Bill Belichick. (BARRY CHIN/GLOBE STAFF)
Harris wasn’t the only contributor to come up limping. Watson took a vicious shot from Panthers safety Eric Reid after the whistle — Watson was already down and Reid threw himself into Watson’s head — and Watson didn’t return to the sideline in the second half. The Patriots don’t have to announce any injuries in the preseason, but it sure looked as if Watson got checked out for a concussion. He’ll be out for the first four games with a suspension, anyway, but no one wants to see him miss practice time before then.
Ebner also briefly left with an injury. Thankfully he returned, because the Patriots got thinner on special teams Thursday. And the Patriots, already thin at tight end following Rob Gronkowski’s retirement, are even more so after losing Matt LaCosse to an ankle injury two weeks ago and Kendricks leaving Thursday’s game.
When asked about the spate of injuries, Brady was quick to note that, “it happens in the regular season, too. This is a contact sport and a physical sport. Injuries are certainly a part of the game.”
He’s absolutely correct. Which is why teams are being ever more cautious with their players in the preseason. These meaningless games just aren’t worth it.
 

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Several injuries on a few teams......regardless of what the NFL does, very few starters will be playing in preseason next year.

The microscope is on it as more coaches are opting to opt out their starters.
 
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Several injuries on a few teams......regardless of what the NFL does, very starters will be playing in preseason next year.

The microscope is on it as more coaches are opting to opt out their starters.
Yeah, even Goodell commented on how the preseason football product is not up to standards. It’s only going to get worse when all the coaches don’t play their starters.
 

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NFL has couple options to reduce preseason games. Expand the regular season or the playoffs. Most likely the will expand the season and add more to the cap/ revenue splits with players.
 

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Enlarge squads in pre season so that there are people playing for a future against the same not starters, you don't want a starter having his knee blown out by a rookie miss timing a block because he's trying too hard.
 

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Yeah, even Goodell commented on how the preseason football product is not up to standards. It’s only going to get worse when all the coaches don’t play their starters.
If the NFL wont expand the regular season and cut the preseason, this is what they get- shit product with no starters.

I love the fact this is starting to happen.

When you get fringe players going all out in a make or break quarter they see on the field, lat hits and falling on to legs or whatnot is gonna happen.

Fuck the preseason.
 

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Meh. In my opinion, it's really just a matter of people adjusting their expectations for what preseason should be: an extension of practice to allow teams to evaluate backup talent / rookies against another team and whittle down the roster before the regular season begins, that happens to be televised. I don't think it needs to be done away with, it's useful in that way. Once more and more coaches stop playing starters completely, which will leave only the die-hard fans who want to see the depth players.
 

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Meh. In my opinion, it's really just a matter of people adjusting their expectations for what preseason should be: an extension of practice to allow teams to evaluate backup talent / rookies against another team and whittle down the roster before the regular season begins, that happens to be televised. I don't think it needs to be done away with, it's useful in that way. Once more and more coaches stop playing starters completely, which will leave only the die-hard fans who want to see the depth players.
Imagine being a football meatball to the point u r mad preseason isn't entertaining enough lmao
 

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Sorry, don't see the NFLPA buying into a 17 or 18 game season, and don't see the owners pulling a lockout to get those extra games. The players key issues are guaranteed contracts and better revenue sharing. The owners won't be willing to give much ground on those just to get the extra games. The sensible compromise is a 16-game 18 week regular season with 2 byes, and an extra playoff round (extra wildcards & a play-in round). That gives the owners an extra two weeks of meaningful games to sell to the networks. Preseason games drop down to two, and get used mostly to evaluate new acquisitions.

An interesting question is whether the small print in the current CBA specifies that in absence of a new CBA or a lockout, the specifications of the current CBA remain in effect. If so, the owners are effectively screwed wrt unilaterally changing the preseason/regular season/playoff mix. I'll bet they didn't think of that back in 2011, when the current CBA was negotiated...
 

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Besides the depth and rookies, I don't really see the need to play starters. Sure some live fire ain't bad here and there even if its vanilla, but the starters are pros. You know what you should be getting from them, they themselves know the level of expectations they have to show up every week. I definitely wouldn't risk it these days.
 

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if they drop the preseason games...who is gonna pay the bills?
 

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Do anything but extend the regular season. Records are hallowed and I don't want to see goofy rules in regards to two extra regular season games like being able to only start someone for 16 games. Cut the preseason down and charge 5% more for NFL licensed retail merch. Boom.
 

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Sorry, don't see the NFLPA buying into a 17 or 18 game season, and don't see the owners pulling a lockout to get those extra games. The players key issues are guaranteed contracts and better revenue sharing. The owners won't be willing to give much ground on those just to get the extra games. The sensible compromise is a 16-game 18 week regular season with 2 byes, and an extra playoff round (extra wildcards & a play-in round). That gives the owners an extra two weeks of meaningful games to sell to the networks. Preseason games drop down to two, and get used mostly to evaluate new acquisitions.

An interesting question is whether the small print in the current CBA specifies that in absence of a new CBA or a lockout, the specifications of the current CBA remain in effect. If so, the owners are effectively screwed wrt unilaterally changing the preseason/regular season/playoff mix. I'll bet they didn't think of that back in 2011, when the current CBA was negotiated...
You believe the owners will give up 32 dates of local ticket and concession sales fora few playoff games? How would that work? Add 2 wild cards teams (4 total) and now half the league is in the playoffs with some definite sub .500 teams making it. And that would just add 4 total games not an additional week Unless the plan would be to give the 1&2 seeds 2 weeks off. Where do the likes of Buffalo benefit from stadium revenue lost from the 2 home preseason games given up?
 
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Do anything but extend the regular season. Records are hallowed and I don't want to see goofy rules in regards to two extra regular season games like being able to only start someone for 16 games. Cut the preseason down and charge 5% more for NFL licensed retail merch. Boom.
Meh

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Here's what will happen IMO:

Option A: preseason reduced to 2 games. Regular season extended 2 games. Players get more money.

Option B: preseason eliminated. Regular season extended 2 games. Playoffs expanded. I don't know how they'd do this. They could add a 7 and 8 seed and then have 5-8 seeds play weekend 1. Get 3 and 4 seeds in round 2. Then 1 and 2 seeds in round 3. But that would mean a 2 week bye for the top two seeds. This is so complicated that I'd think they'll go with option A
 
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