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if they drop the preseason games...who is gonna pay the bills?
Terrence Pegula, the owner of the Bills.
HAHAHAHAHA GET IT???
if they drop the preseason games...who is gonna pay the bills?
I have to agree with @iueyedoc. Teams are not gonna give up 32 games of revenue for 4. While I'm sure playoff revenue for TV is greater than the stadium revenue, I'd highly doubt it comes anywhere close to the total revenue generated from the preseason.Sorry, don't see the NFLPA buying into a 17 or 18 game season, and don't see the owners pulling a lockout to get those extra games. The players key issues are guaranteed contracts and better revenue sharing. The owners won't be willing to give much ground on those just to get the extra games. The sensible compromise is a 16-game 18 week regular season with 2 byes, and an extra playoff round (extra wildcards & a play-in round). That gives the owners an extra two weeks of meaningful games to sell to the networks. Preseason games drop down to two, and get used mostly to evaluate new acquisitions.
An interesting question is whether the small print in the current CBA specifies that in absence of a new CBA or a lockout, the specifications of the current CBA remain in effect. If so, the owners are effectively screwed wrt unilaterally changing the preseason/regular season/playoff mix. I'll bet they didn't think of that back in 2011, when the current CBA was negotiated...
This would severely impact the competitiveness and parody that exists. If it did happen, players could expect much lower salaries.
Agree that the fully guaranteed contract is a pipe dream for players. Though they could do a form of team cap relief or credit for career ending injuries. Problem there is guys flush with money, like Jerry Jones, would likely overpay aging players with long term deals and then they would get mysterious career ending injuries once their skills deminished.There is zero chance the players get guaranteed contracts (if I'm understanding this point). This isn't the NBA. Players are injured and careers end abruptly. This would severely impact the competitiveness and parody that exists. If it did happen, players could expect much lower salaries.
Umhhh, dropping two preseason games means dropping one (1) home preseason game, correct?You believe the owners will give up 32 dates of local ticket and concession sales fora few playoff games? How would that work? Add 2 wild cards teams (4 total) and now half the league is in the playoffs with some definite sub .500 teams making it. And that would just add 4 total games not an additional week. Where do the likes of Buffalo benefit from stadium revenue lost from the 2 home preseason games given up?
Well, you learn something new every day. All this time I thought that's what was being said and didn't really give it too much thought. Thanks to you, I now see I was way off and question why I ever thought it was parody instead of parity.Your typo seems almost more appropriate than the right word.
The were huge give-backs in the last CBA and the players' leverage is minimal. I think the owners will offer them something for more games but the fight will be over whether it's guaranteed money. The owners have been wanting to go to war ever since the dawn of free agency and they aren't afraid of a strike. The NFLPA might actually get more for the players by negotiating a longer season now than in the next CBA after 2020.No way do the players accept more regular season games without more money. Personally, I say keep it as is. Nagy is smart enough to not play his starters. Maybe the other coaches will come to that line of thinking at some point.
Meh. In my opinion, it's really just a matter of people adjusting their expectations for what preseason should be: an extension of practice to allow teams to evaluate backup talent / rookies against another team and whittle down the roster before the regular season begins, that happens to be televised. I don't think it needs to be done away with, it's useful in that way. Once more and more coaches stop playing starters completely, which will leave only the die-hard fans who want to see the depth players.
Agree that the fully guaranteed contract is a pipe dream for players. Though they could do a form of team cap relief or credit for career ending injuries. Problem there is guys flush with money, like Jerry Jones, would likely overpay aging players with long term deals and then they would get mysterious career ending injuries once their skills deminished.
The were huge give-backs in the last CBA and the players' leverage is minimal. I think the owners will offer them something for more games but the fight will be over whether it's guaranteed money. The owners have been wanting to go to war ever since the dawn of free agency and they aren't afraid of a strike. The NFLPA might actually get more for the players by negotiating a longer season now than in the next CBA after 2020.
You believe the owners will give up 32 dates of local ticket and concession sales fora few playoff games? How would that work? Add 2 wild cards teams (4 total) and now half the league is in the playoffs with some definite sub .500 teams making it. And that would just add 4 total games not an additional week Unless the plan would be to give the 1&2 seeds 2 weeks off. Where do the likes of Buffalo benefit from stadium revenue lost from the 2 home preseason games given up?
Here's what will happen IMO:
Option A: preseason reduced to 2 games. Regular season extended 2 games. Players get more money.
Option B: preseason eliminated. Regular season extended 2 games. Playoffs expanded. I don't know how they'd do this. They could add a 7 and 8 seed and then have 5-8 seeds play weekend 1. Get 3 and 4 seeds in round 2. Then 1 and 2 seeds in round 3. But that would mean a 2 week bye for the top two seeds. This is so complicated that I'd think they'll go with option A
I floated that several years agoI still like the idea they floated a few months ago. Cut 2 preseason games. Every team them plays one out-of-country\overseas game, with the 2nd bye week immediately after this extra game.
Each team still has 8 home and 8 away games, an extra bye to recover, a shorter preseason, and a grestly expanded world NFL market. Win across the board, IMO...
He would not know that. He only showed up last season from a lions board and probably has u on ignore by now anywayI floated that several years ago
I still like the idea they floated a few months ago. Cut 2 preseason games. Every team them plays one out-of-country\overseas game, with the 2nd bye week immediately after this extra game.
Each team still has 8 home and 8 away games, an extra bye to recover, a shorter preseason, and a grestly expanded world NFL market. Win across the board, IMO...
Is 2 games enough to truly eval the fringe players and UDFAs?