2/27 IGT: Blackhawks at Lightning

[zack54attack]

Chicago Blackhawks 27-28-8 (62 points) AT Tampa Bay Lightning 40-18-5 (85 points
Date: 2/27
Time: 6:00 p.m. CDT
Location: Amalie Arena
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[WesIsaLeo]

And there it is.

Once again a goalie is burned after making save after tough save after difficult save due to the comical inability of this team to clear the zone (except by accident; puck hops over a stick, etc.)

 

[Jack Lantern]

2-2!

Kubalik's price tag is going up with each goal. Let's hope he doesn't turn into a 1 year wonder like Debrincat...

 

[WesIsaLeo]

Hope this lead holds up. Nice to see Chicago play like they can after keeping things close for so long...despite the usual own-zone follies.

DeBrincat could still notch 20 goals which is a more in-line number for someone who had 15% and 18% shooting stats the last two years.

I don’t see him as a pan-flash; just someone who had an incredible year a-la Karlsson in Vegas who shouldn’t be expected to repeat that crazy success every year afterward.

 

[Jack Lantern]

Kubalik with a hat trick!

Cha ching!

$$$$$$$

 

[Jack Lantern]

Hope this lead holds up. Nice to see Chicago play like they can after keeping things close for so long...despite the usual own-zone follies.

DeBrincat could still notch 20 goals which is a more in-line number for someone who had 15% and 18% shooting stats the last two years.

I don’t see him as a pan-flash; just someone who had an incredible year a-la Karlsson in Vegas who shouldn’t be expected to repeat that crazy success every year afterward.

Thing with Cat is he is a one trick pony. He's not good defensively. Not gonna win any board battles with his size and goalies will easily look over him if he tries to screen in front of the net.

Think of it this way. He put up 41 goals last season in a contract year and ended up a PLUS/MINUS ZERO, lol.

You put up that many goals you should be in the PLUS double digit column easy. Just goes to show how much of a liability he is defensively when he's on the ice.

 

[zack54attack]

Wow. That was impressive

 

[Tater]

Kub's agent must have popped open a couple bottles of champagne.
That win caught me totally off guard after the first two dumpster fires periods.

 

[galaxytrash]

Thing with Cat is he is a one trick pony. He's not good defensively. Not gonna win any board battles with his size and goalies will easily look over him if he tries to screen in front of the net.

Think of it this way. He put up 41 goals last season in a contract year and ended up a PLUS/MINUS ZERO, lol.

You put up that many goals you should be in the PLUS double digit column easy. Just goes to show how much of a liability he is defensively when he's on the ice.

his contract year was supposed to be this year actually. they extended him but he's still on under 900k this year.

i sort've agree with the rest of your post but for his size, i think he's pretty good along the boards.

if he was a defensive juggernaut ....he'd have easily gone top 10, not #39.

 

[anotheridiot]

if this team can find a way to start playing when the game starts they could actually have a shot at winning every game.
First time since 2009 the hawks won in Tampa. First time in a long time the lightning lost after winning going into the third.

Another sensational find by the scouts in europe which should be a great feather in the cap of this organization, guessing Kubalik goes the way of the last few european finds like Panarin and is deemed unaffordable.

 

[Granada]

if this team can find a way to start playing when the game starts they could actually have a shot at winning every game.
First time since 2009 the hawks won in Tampa. First time in a long time the lightning lost after winning going into the third.

Another sensational find by the scouts in europe which should be a great feather in the cap of this organization, guessing Kubalik goes the way of the last few european finds like Panarin and is deemed unaffordable.

Some perspective: it's one win, against a cold team (TB lost 3 in a row heading in), with many of their starting players out, including their best player in Steve Stamkos.

Kubalik won't be lost, if he's not asking for the moon or if the Hawks genuinely want to retain him. All he would have to do essentially is trade Saad this off-season, which shouldn't be all that hard -- he doesn't have a NMC and only has one year left on his contract. Not necessarily advocating that, but just saying: Bowman has options, it's not like his hands are tied with re-signing Kubalik.

 

[Diehardfan]

Some perspective: it's one win, against a cold team (TB lost 3 in a row heading in), with many of their starting players out, including their best player in Steve Stamkos.

Kubalik won't be lost, if he's not asking for the moon or if the Hawks genuinely want to retain him. All he would have to do essentially is trade Saad this off-season, which shouldn't be all that hard -- he doesn't have a NMC and only has one year left on his contract. Not necessarily advocating that, but just saying: Bowman has options, it's not like his hands are tied with re-signing Kubalik.

Not sure what team he's watching but the Hawks were either tied or leading after one period or at least tied at some point in the second period in 10 of their last 11 games. I'm not saying they were playing great hockey but mostly thanks to goaltending, they've had their chances. But that's what usually happens when you are not the better team.....I sincerely hope it's not Bowman making the needed moves, but there is a lot of work to be done. One win vs a good team doesn't mean much.

 

[anotheridiot]

Some perspective: it's one win, against a cold team (TB lost 3 in a row heading in), with many of their starting players out, including their best player in Steve Stamkos.

Kubalik won't be lost, if he's not asking for the moon or if the Hawks genuinely want to retain him. All he would have to do essentially is trade Saad this off-season, which shouldn't be all that hard -- he doesn't have a NMC and only has one year left on his contract. Not necessarily advocating that, but just saying: Bowman has options, it's not like his hands are tied with re-signing Kubalik.

Well, remember when it was time to sign Panarin? They traded Saad to be able to afford him, got Panarin to sign a 2 year 6 million per year dollar deal, and still moved him figuring they could not afford to keep him after that deal or some other made up reason in that head of his. Panarin did not really cost that much more at 6 million since he hit almost all of his performance bonus dollars. The knock was he did not show up in the second year he was in the playoffs with chicago. First year, 7 playoff games 7 points, second year 4 games 1 point -4 rating and he was gone.

 

[LordKOTL]

Thing with Cat is he is a one trick pony. He's not good defensively. Not gonna win any board battles with his size and goalies will easily look over him if he tries to screen in front of the net.

Think of it this way. He put up 41 goals last season in a contract year and ended up a PLUS/MINUS ZERO, lol.

You put up that many goals you should be in the PLUS double digit column easy. Just goes to show how much of a liability he is defensively when he's on the ice.

To be fair to Debrincat, his +/- is a combo of line/players iced with him stat in terms of variance from line mates. And Kane/Strome were merely a +2. With Kane putting up 3 more goals and over 20 more points, what's that say about Kane?

He's not good defensively, but really, no one has been on the 'hawks since 2015. They've had to rely on goaltending to save them. When they don't have it things go to shit fast.

 

[Diehardfan]

To be fair to Debrincat, his +/- is a combo of line/players iced with him stat in terms of variance from line mates. And Kane/Strome were merely a +2. With Kane putting up 3 more goals and over 20 more points, what's that say about Kane?

He's not good defensively, but really, no one has been on the 'hawks since 2015. They've had to rely on goaltending to save them. When they don't have it things go to shit fast.

Excellent point, it's just so true. Besides, anyone who uses +/- as a parameter for player worth either knows nothing about the game or is just a moron. It's such a bogus stat that relies on so many uncontrollable circumstances that it should be removed from all NHL databases.

Example: based on +/- Ryan Graves is the best defender in the NHL and Drew Doughty is one of the worst. What a joke....the "best" defender didn't even make the All-Star team.

 

[Granada]

Well, remember when it was time to sign Panarin? They traded Saad to be able to afford him, got Panarin to sign a 2 year 6 million per year dollar deal, and still moved him figuring they could not afford to keep him after that deal or some other made up reason in that head of his. Panarin did not really cost that much more at 6 million since he hit almost all of his performance bonus dollars. The knock was he did not show up in the second year he was in the playoffs with chicago. First year, 7 playoff games 7 points, second year 4 games 1 point -4 rating and he was gone.

Panarin was already re-signed by the Hawks when Bowman traded him for Saad. Bowman traded him because he's an idiot, it had nothing to do with cap.

Also, the knock on Panarin was that he wasn't a two-way player (whereas Saad was) and couldn't play without Kane on his line. In other words, he was inflexible in the lineup, and Bowman wanted someone who could jump-start Toews in Saad.

 

[anotheridiot]

Panarin was already re-signed by the Hawks when Bowman traded him for Saad. Bowman traded him because he's an idiot, it had nothing to do with cap.

Also, the knock on Panarin was that he wasn't a two-way player (whereas Saad was) and couldn't play without Kane on his line. In other words, he was inflexible in the lineup, and Bowman wanted someone who could jump-start Toews in Saad.

Yeah, that was the point, even when we resigned him for an affordable dollar, he still dealt him, so what would stop him from doing the same stupid mistake with Kubalik?

 

[Granada]

Yeah, that was the point, even when we resigned him for an affordable dollar, he still dealt him, so what would stop him from doing the same stupid mistake with Kubalik?

There's a difference between being "un-affordable," and being affordable (i.e. re-signed) only to be moved. But anyways...

You might as well ask, what's stopping Bowman from being an idiot. The only answer to that, is him being fired by the organization.

 

[Jack Lantern]

Plus Minus is goal differential. Look at all bad NHL teams and look at their differentials...all in the negative column, lol So looks there is a link to that overrated stat in relation to team success.
https://www.espn.com/nhl/standings

Cat is so overrated.

 

[Diehardfan]

"A player is awarded a "plus" each time he is on the ice when his Club scores an even-strength or shorthanded goal. He receives a "minus" if he is on the ice for an even-strength or shorthanded goal scored by the opposing Club. The difference in these numbers is considered the player's "plus-minus" statistic. "

"Goal difference (or points difference) is calculated as the number of goals (or points) scored in all league matches minus the number of goals or points conceded."

Two different things......learn the game or quit pretending that you do.