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This just was posted on Cubs.com and it brings up a interesting situation if his eye issues are past him.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/chc...md=20131017&content_id=63079390&vkey=news_chc

MESA, Ariz. -- On a sun-kissed morning, Mike Olt and two of the Cubs' Minor League coaches were working out on Field 2 at Fitch Park. There was one autograph seeker hovering nearby, but no other players and no pressure.

"I'm just enjoying being out here," Olt said later, sitting at a picnic table outside the Cubs' complex. "It's fun to be on a field and working on stuff. Right now, I'm enjoying hitting."

Olt couldn't say that much this year. A first-round pick by the Rangers in the 2010 First-Year Player Draft, the 25-year-old began this season at Triple-A Round Rock and was batting .139 on April 25 when he asked for some help. In November 2012, he was hit in the head while playing in the Dominican Winter League and was having problems with his vision.

"My depth perception was off," said the Cubs' No. 5-ranked prospect, according to MLB.com. "It got to be a little dangerous. I missed a ball -- the time I figured out I knew I had a problem was on a steal. I was covering third, and there was a perfect throw to me, and I missed the ball and it hit me right in the chest. I was like, 'This is getting dangerous.'

"Texas did a great job understanding. They knew I was struggling. I kept playing through. I was nervous that people would think I was making an excuse for how I was playing. Texas, they knew me, and they did a great job trusting me."

He saw several specialists, and he finally returned to play June 3. On July 21, he was batting .213 for the season, and had just gone 2-for-3 against the Cubs' Triple-A Iowa team, hitting a double and a three-run homer in a 3-0 win. Olt's name was mentioned in trade rumors the year before when the Rangers acquired Ryan Dempster and Geovany Soto from the Cubs. At that time, Olt was batting .288, and Texas wasn't going to part with the third baseman.

"This year was weird," Olt said. "We were playing Iowa, and [a deal] almost happened. I came in and [my teammates] were playing a joke on me and had my bag kind of packed. I said, 'What's going on?' They said, 'It's a pretty much done deal.' I said, 'OK, I guess I'll just walk over to the other side.' But it didn't happen that day.

"We finished the series, and I went to Memphis. We had an 11-hour bus ride to Memphis, got off the bus, got to the field, and [this year's trade] was on TV. I'm like, 'What's going on?' I got a bunch of texts saying, 'Congratulations.' I didn't have that good a week and didn't think I was Player of the Week. I didn't know what they were talking about."

Then he got the official word. The Cubs and Rangers had worked out a deal, and this time, Matt Garza was headed to Texas in exchange for Olt and Minor League pitchers Justin Grimm and C.J. Edwards. The Rangers also sent Neil Ramirez to the Cubs on Aug. 23 to complete the trade.

"The next morning, I got on a flight and went home and packed up my car and went on another flight," Olt said. "I missed my flight to Iowa. Then I got there at 6, 6:15 [p.m.] and played in that game. It was a crazy time. Once it settled down and I got a chance to take a breath, I realized it was a great spot for me."

It could be a very beneficial move for Olt. He could be the Cubs' starting third baseman in 2014.

Chicago used six different third basemen in 2013, and they combined to bat .221, the lowest at that position in the National League. They also combined to hit 30 home runs, second best in the NL. Luis Valbuena finished with the most at-bats there with 303. The team had re-signed Ian Stewart in the offseason, but he struggled with injuries in Spring Training and was eventually released on June 25 after batting .168 for Iowa and criticizing the Cubs and then-manager Dale Sveum on Twitter.

Olt has waited his turn with the Rangers behind Adrian Beltre. Now, there's an opening.

"It's going to be a different experience for me [this offseason], because in years past, I trained as hard as I could train, but I knew Adrian Beltre would be at third base," he said. "This year, it's different, knowing I have a better shot of making a spot on the roster."

He had blisters on his hands to prove he's serious. This month, Olt worked out at Fitch Park with Minor League hitting coordinator Anthony Iapoce and coach Oscar Bernard, but he did not play in any of the Cubs' instructional league games. Olt returned to his home in Connecticut on Oct. 7, but he was eager to return to Arizona to work out at the team's new Spring Training facility. He's found a place to stay near the west Mesa complex and figures he'll get more done in the desert than on the East Coast, especially if it snows.

Olt can't wait to get back on the field, because he can see clearly again.

"We still don't know the exact story," he said of the link between getting hit in winter ball and his vision problems. "After I got hit, my vision wasn't blurry at first, but eventually, as time went on, it got a little more blurry when I would blink. It finally got to a point where I said something.

"Texas did a great job getting me to every doctor they could to figure it out. We got to a point where we know what to do and we know how to control it, and I've been out here [in Arizona], and it's been night and day since last year when I was out here. It makes me feel a lot better knowing I'm out here and I don't have any problems with my eyes, just little things."

He's now doing exercises for his eyes and taking allergy medication.

"They explained it like when you have a hurt arm, you rehab your arm," Olt said. "Let's say my eye was hurt, and I wasn't training at all. That's part of it. Allergies were part of it. My eye wasn't producing enough fluid to flush out some of the allergies. We got a special allergy drop right now."

Olt had headaches the first week after he was hit, but nothing after that and no real side effects of a concussion, except a tear duct may have shifted. Being in Arizona for a few days earlier this month was a test to see if his allergy medication was working, and it passed.

Being on the field with Iapoce and Bernard helped, too. Olt was ranked 22nd prior to the 2013 season on MLB.com's list of top prospects. In Mesa, he started to feel like that hitter again.

"It's a different feeling, and the fact I know how it feels, it's easier to sleep at night," he said.

The process created a lot of restless days and nights. It was tough to hit or field when he could only see with one eye.

"It was hard, because we couldn't figure out what was going on," Olt said. "I'm seeing all these doctors, and they're saying my eyes are good. I knew my eyes were OK, but there was something else that I knew was wrong. The fact that we figured it out, it's been a whole lot better."

There are no guarantees that Olt will be at third for the Cubs on Opening Day. One thing is certain is that he'll be competing fothe spot.

"They're going to bring in guys," he said. "They have good guys here. Theo [Epstein, president of baseball operations] is not going to sit back. It's going to be good competition. I'm excited for the challenge."

Now, Olt can see an opportunity.
 

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The last line was so cheesy it made me lol :lol:

Good for Olt, though -- Let's hope he's ROY next year :X
 

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it was pretty bad.

The thing about this is if he pulls it together he fills the RH power hitter to split up Rizzo and Schierholtz.

For his sake I hope he goes back to his previous levels and it sure doesn't hurt the Cubs cause.

Milling it over and more and more they need to get Barney out of 2B and move Valbuena over there.

Splits for Valbuena: .217/.331/.383 VS RH pitching. 49 BB in 300 AB well over 10%.

I would bat him lead off like they did with Fukudome and Dejesus and have Castro bat #2.

Olt hitting #4. Lake hitting #6 to split up Schierholtz and Sweeney's bats.

On platoons I would test Vitters in RF and at 2B let Murphey and Barney fight over it. Have Castro hit #1 vs LH pitching and adjust.
 

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You lost me. Where's Valbuena? Who's fighting for 2nd? Three guys?
 

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Hoping Olt can take job in ST but if he Dont i expect Bryant to be there in June. Personally i like to see Watkins get shot at 2B to start yr until Baez or Alamantra (cant spell) is ready in June. Cubs should have Baez, Bryant, and Alamantra ready in June once they get pass the SUper 2 status
 

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Platoon Murphy (who I don't care for, but earned a shot to the brass) and sign Eric Chavez for 2014, and if Bryant comes up then capital.

Unless we see a miracle (no pun intended) Olt will likely be out of the Cubs organization by the end of next year, just a hunch with the way Bryant is progressing. Dude can't play, and 'allergies' is part of his excuse. Sorry.......not buying it.

It says a lot about a guy, especially a primly positioned 3B with power and average to go from 'untouchable' to a throw-in, not headline piece of a deal.....
 

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It would be great if Olt gets back to his old self quickly, and plays at the level expected of him when Texas wouldn't let him go.

If he could play 3B coming out of camp, it would certainly help.

When we got him, it looked great. When he struggled, many of us here were ready to assume he'd never be the same because of the eye problems. If he truly has those beat, things would be looking up as lineup flexibility and power go. Bryant in OF, Baez has all kinds of possibilities...please, Olt, be the player you were projected to be!
 

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Hoping Olt can take job in ST but if he Dont i expect Bryant to be there in June. Personally i like to see Watkins get shot at 2B to start yr until Baez or Alamantra (cant spell) is ready in June. Cubs should have Baez, Bryant, and Alamantra ready in June once they get pass the SUper 2 status

From what I've read from scouts, it seems like Baez is probably going to be a lock at 3B and Bryant will start to see time at RF. That would also jive well with Alcantara who's likely to be a top 100 prospect fitting in at 2B. Olt probably gets a shot to win the job out of spring training as an audition for a trade or if Baez slips he has a chance.
 

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Well like I said if Olt bounces back it doesn't hurt.

Over all he runs a 12.5 BB% and a 32.5% SO% So we are talking about a hitter that could put up .220 BA with a .333 OBA which is what we got out of Valbuena.

But he also has hit 28 HR's in 2012 at AA and earned a stint on the Rangers that year. That was when he was considered untouchable.

2012: AA: .288/.398/.579 28 HR

His projections on fan graphs:
.214/.299/.372 14 HR 45 RBI

Not great but better than what Valbuena gave there.

IMO with Dale out and no one to over value Barney's worth; Barney's lack of production is going to out weight his D.

On Watkins like him and he also brings a high BB% Needed tools for a lead off.

At this point they should just build the team to get guys to get on base.
 

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From what I've read from scouts, it seems like Baez is probably going to be a lock at 3B and Bryant will start to see time at RF. That would also jive well with Alcantara who's likely to be a top 100 prospect fitting in at 2B. Olt probably gets a shot to win the job out of spring training as an audition for a trade or if Baez slips he has a chance.

2B: Barney/Watkins/Valbuena/Murphy potentials. AAA: Alcantra. Maybe Baez.

I would put it up to competition this S/T. If Olt is hitting the ball with authority I have to make him my opening day 3B. His talent was legit and not fringe. His eye problems may just have been a blessing to the Cubs as he was a toss in when before he would have been the main piece for a higher quality trade.

2B: I would platoon it. Barney is what he is. Alcantra in AAA and keep Baez at SS at Iowa. It would come down to BA between Watkins and Valbuena. Both can pick it and both take walks. Comes down to pure OBA between the 2. Barney I'd field offers this winter. His value is just going to go down from now on and I expect him to become a UI as a F/A eventually. Murphy gives some HR power from the right side and can field SS. I would have to give him 1 mil in Arb. He is worth that value.
 

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Valbuena at 2B platoon with either Murphy or Barney.

How about getting rid of Barney and solve one problem, then move on to the next one?

Hopefully he gets an award this year and the Cubs package him somehow in a trade.
 

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I would like Barney more if he went back to doing UI work but even then Murphy holds more value because he can play 3B and hit for power. Send him to KC where Dale can use him in his shifts.
 

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I think it's much too soon to give up on Olt. Baez and Bryant are better prospects even if he's healthy, but I am not ready to ship him off as a bust.

And .214 projection? He'll hit that WITH the eye problem. Without it, much better.
 

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I think it's much too soon to give up on Olt. Baez and Bryant are better prospects even if he's healthy, but I am not ready to ship him off as a bust.

And .214 projection? He'll hit that WITH the eye problem. Without it, much better.

if he put up a .230/.340/.450 line I'd be happy.
 

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In a perfect world Olt wins the 3B job out of ST. Then come June, Baez comes up and either he or Castro play 2B. That would be ideal and then Bryant takes over RF when he comes up. I have heard Olt could play LF, but I think it would be more beneficial to leave him at 3B and allow Baez to shift elsewhere in the infield. Hopefully Castro turns it around next year, which I think he will. That would create a very promising young infield.

Also if Alcantra comes up, this will either open up a trade and allow Olt to move to LF, Baez 3B, Alcantra 2B. and Bryant RF. Like I said this is a perfect scenario. Not likely that each of these guys make it up
 

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I would look to raise Olts status again and then trade him. He is not as a good as a prospect as any of them.
 

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I would look to raise Olts status again and then trade him. He is not as a good as a prospect as any of them.

I tend to agree.

Ideal is Watkins or Valbuena take over 2B and Olt takes over 3B this year.

When the trade deadline looms and Alcantra, Bryant and Baez are looking to promote then trade out excess depth. I would not hold back here. In other words if a team makes a solid offer for Castro I would do it and start Baez at SS the next day.

I believe Bryant could play 3B or RF. But if Castro can bring back a top of the rotation and Olt gives back a fringe talent and both are producing then the choice is obvious. Baez, Bryant and Alcantra can be shifted around to suit the team needs.

The biggest need is going to be top line pitching not a A ball player that may never cut it when these guys get on the field.
 

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I tend to agree.

Ideal is Watkins or Valbuena take over 2B and Olt takes over 3B this year.

When the trade deadline looms and Alcantra, Bryant and Baez are looking to promote then trade out excess depth. I would not hold back here. In other words if a team makes a solid offer for Castro I would do it and start Baez at SS the next day.

I believe Bryant could play 3B or RF. But if Castro can bring back a top of the rotation and Olt gives back a fringe talent and both are producing then the choice is obvious. Baez, Bryant and Alcantra can be shifted around to suit the team needs.

The biggest need is going to be top line pitching not a A ball player that may never cut it when these guys get on the field.

I don't know if the Cubs truly need to trade for pitching. They are basically going to fill the team with rookie contracts with position players. They should have a ton of money to spend on pitching. I mean if you can get a young ace type in a trade then yea but I wouldn't go for older types. I would love to try to nab Dylan Bundy somehow.
 

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Wow! Reports say that Clayton Kershaw turned down a lifetime contract from the Dodgers for around 300 million dollars earlier this seaon. Unbelievable.
 

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