A closer look at Robert Quinn

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For some reason the Quinn reminds me alot of the Ogungleye signing. Similar factors off the edge as 8-10 sack guys. Both were signed while still having a couple of years to play in their primes. I think, might be wrong, but both could play from a 2 & 3 point stance in either a 3-4 or a 4-3.

One of the main differences is the contract. It sounds like the Bears can realistically cut & run after 3 years in. But it does seem to me like the type of talent the Bears will get from Quinn is somewhat similar to what they aquired with Ogungleye. Which I would be happy with BTW, if were talking Ogungleye in the first half of his contract with the Bears.
 

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I’ll leave this right here...


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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Bears edge rusher Robert Quinn generated pressure on 14.0% of pass rushes last season, 2nd-highest in the NFL behind only Za&#39;Darius Smith (14.6%).<br><br>Quinn&#39;s average pass rush get-off time (0.80 seconds) ranked 5th among edge rushers with at least 300 pass rushes in 2019. <a href="https://t.co/ZRJlqon8Nn">https://t.co/ZRJlqon8Nn</a> <a href="https://t.co/uNnOn4EURe">pic.twitter.com/uNnOn4EURe</a></p>&mdash; Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href=" ">March 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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Damn, Quinn looks fast. This signing has really grown on me. I was worried about the injury history and scheme fit but putting 80 career sacks opposite of Mack could be a hell of an upgrade. Add to that a healthy Hicks and they're going to get after some QBs this year.

It honestly really surprised me how fast Quinn looks on tape. There are young edge rushers classified as extremely fast who look slow compared to Quinn on game film. And all the clips I used in the OP were from last season.
 

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Leonard Floyd does many things well. He’s great in setting the edge and in pursuit of the ball carrier. He does not guess one way or the other, he reads the play as it unfolds. He can back into a zone in coverage, as well as cover the RB out of the backfield. He’s even lined up in the slot a few times. Robert Quinn does one thing well, he rushes the QB. And he does it very, very well.

SPEED

First and foremost, before any talk of technique, Quinn’s raw speed jumps out at you. He looks like he plays at a different gear than anyone out on the field. Before putting technique into the equation, he can beat you simply by his pure speed alone.

On this play, there is a TE cushioning the LT from Quinn. This should give the TE plenty of time to get back and cut off the edge. There is no threat of an inside move to worry aboot. But Quinn explodes off the line like a sprinter, beats the LT to the point, and flattens to the QB...

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Here Quinn gets upfield so fast that the TE completely whiffs on the chip block...


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This is a designed 3 step drop. You see the LT covering his inside first. This is because edge pressure should not even be a factor on this particular play. Yet Quinn is still able to get a hit on the QB...

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This is another designed 3 step drop. The sack is 100% on the QB for not throwing it in time. But even if he did, Quinn would have still clobbered the QB...

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The LT does a nice job driving Quinn out of position on this play. Yet because of his speed, Quinn is able to recover that ground quickly. He then hurries the QB into overthrowing a wide open receiver downfield...

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Because of his elite speed, Quinn is never out of a play no matter what position he’s in. Here he chases down the QB from 13 yards behind the LOS...

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Catches the ball carrier from the backside of the play...

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Runs down the QB to the sideline from an inside stunt...

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AGILITY

Speed isn’t everything, even elite speed. You have to be able to get off of a block. This is where Quinn sets himself apart from many speed rushers. He changes direction seamlessly and in an instant...

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He displays special body control maintaining balance while not losing acceleration. On this play, note how Quinn gets dragged down to the ground by the shoulder pad without losing his footing. He then pops back up instantly at full speed...

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Here Quinn contorts his body 90 degrees, literally facing the sideline, in order to get through the gap...

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These traits just described are how Quinn gets off of blocks. On his signature move, he uses a dip to turn the corner with the least amount of resistance. He then bends his hips in order to make the sharp turn towards the QB. And he rips his arm upward to completely detach from the blocker and to gain added momentum...

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Here is a slight variation where Quinn adds a stab right before the dip...

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OTHER TECHNIQUES

On this play, Quinn raises his arms over his head and straightens his entire body in sort of a Superman pose. He contorts his body in a way that the offensive tackle simply has no where to grab onto...

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Quinn also utilizes a unique jump cut cho maneuver. As the blocker goes to engage, Quinn leaps into the air. Then he chops the blockers arm as he is landing. With his feet not planted in the ground, it makes it difficult for the OT to move him or throw him off balance...

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Here is a setup from the jump cut chop. The OT is anticipating the jump cut, so he waits to engage. But it never comes...

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Here is an inside counter to the speed rush...

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FINAL THOUGHTS

Three legit pass rushers on passing downs should cause fits for opposing offenses. 3rd and long becomes a daunting task.

Sure, you could leave extra blockers in, but that will also feed into the Bears strength. The more offensive players you leave in pass protection, the longer the QB has to hold the ball. And odds are that one of Mack/Hicks/Quinn will eventually spring free. Plays in which only 3 to 4 targets deployed require the receivers to run much longer routes in order to disperse the secondary and create space.

With Quinn normally going all out to the QB, the defense becomes more susceptible to the run and to screen plays. A run oriented strong safety could help to balance that.

Another concern is that since Quinn relies so much on speed, losing a step could be devastating to his game. And with already being in the league for some 9 years or so, losing a step is always a possibility. But there was definitely no sign of it in 2019.

Thanks for putting this together. I was able to watch some games from last year and agree with the take comparing him and Floyd. Floyd was a good overall football player but a below average pass rusher, where Quinn is a really good pass rusher but below average at everything else with the style he plays. He really just has one thing in mind and that is speed rush around the end. He seems to do it no matter what the down and distance is. Which leads to the splash types of plays you highlighted but also opens up huge gaps in the run game. Will be interesting to see how Pagano covers this up.
 
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Thanks for putting this together. I was able to watch some games from last year and agree with the take comparing him and Floyd. Floyd was a good overall football player but a below average pass rusher, where Quinn is a really good pass rusher but below average at everything else with the style he plays. He really just has one thing in mind and that is speed rush around the end. He seems to do it no matter what the down and distance is. Which leads to the splash types of plays you highlighted but also opens up huge gaps in the run game. Will be interesting to see how Pagano covers this up.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m watching Robert Quinn highlights and see him throwing Leno to the ground like a rag doll ??‍♂️ <a href="https://t.co/8ZOg0ebZ9V">pic.twitter.com/8ZOg0ebZ9V</a></p>&mdash; illwill (@79illwill) <a href=" ">March 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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The experts say that he is bad at stopping the run, which is true, but he isnt getting paid to stop the run. If Hicks/Goldman/RRH and the DLine are healthy, they will be able to stop the run. He's getting paid to be the DeMarcus Ware for Von Miller in Denver. His job will be

Get to the QB
GET TO THE QB
GET TO THE QB

If he ends up with 10+sacks, it will be an elite Defense regardless of the talent deficiency at the #2CB position.

I think if he can at least getp
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Bears edge rusher Robert Quinn generated pressure on 14.0% of pass rushes last season, 2nd-highest in the NFL behind only Za&#39;Darius Smith (14.6%).<br><br>Quinn&#39;s average pass rush get-off time (0.80 seconds) ranked 5th among edge rushers with at least 300 pass rushes in 2019. <a href="https://t.co/ZRJlqon8Nn">https://t.co/ZRJlqon8Nn</a> <a href="https://t.co/uNnOn4EURe">pic.twitter.com/uNnOn4EURe</a></p>&mdash; Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href=" ">March 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I couldnt help but notice Z'Darius Smith atop the list. Which makes me want the Quinn signing to pan out even more. I wanted the Bears to sign Z'Darius Smith in the worst way last offseason.

If Quinn can play anywhere near the level that Z'Darius Smith played to in 2019 this defense should be filthy.
 

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I really like your analytical posts. Lots of good entertaining insight. Psyched about Quinn. Should make the defense better overall, and make for some exciting Sundays again.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m watching Robert Quinn highlights and see him throwing Leno to the ground like a rag doll ??‍♂️ <a href="https://t.co/8ZOg0ebZ9V">pic.twitter.com/8ZOg0ebZ9V</a></p>&mdash; illwill (@79illwill) <a href=" ">March 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

At first I didn't notice this was an RPO. Mitch needs to learn to keep these better, half the time it makes 0 sense in what he sees.

Quinns pass block win rate is going to pay huge dividends to the entire Defense. Our D has gotten better this off season. This covers up CB / S questions no matter how you look at it as well.
 

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I feel like the bears will use Roy Robertson Harris to drop back into coverage from time to time and pay close attention to those screens. Hopefully Bilal nichols becomes an akiem hicks Jr.....
 

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For some reason the Quinn reminds me alot of the Ogungleye signing. Similar factors off the edge as 8-10 sack guys. Both were signed while still having a couple of years to play in their primes. I think, might be wrong, but both could play from a 2 & 3 point stance in either a 3-4 or a 4-3.

One of the main differences is the contract. It sounds like the Bears can realistically cut & run after 3 years in. But it does seem to me like the type of talent the Bears will get from Quinn is somewhat similar to what they aquired with Ogungleye. Which I would be happy with BTW, if were talking Ogungleye in the first half of his contract with the Bears.

Quinn is a lot more faster off the edge then Ogun
 

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I feel like the bears will use Roy Robertson Harris to drop back into coverage from time to time and pay close attention to those screens. Hopefully Bilal nichols becomes an akiem hicks Jr.....

If you look at NFL personnel, most teams overwhelmingly play Nickel now so the idea of a 4-3 or 3-4 defense is somewhat obsolete. 2019 numbers are not out but here are the numbers for 2018.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2019/2018-defensive-personnel-analysis

Bears were in base which for them is a 3-4 only 17% of the time. They were in nickel 76% of the time. So the reality is it is less a front 7 now and a front 6 as follows.

Edge - Mack and Quinn
DT - Hicks and Goldman
ILB - Quan and DT

Then you have the nickel back ie Buster Skrine. In this formation RRH or the other DE in a traditional 3-4 disappears. Instead RRH and Nichols will likely spend most of their time spelling Hicks and Goldman on the inside. RRH may also play Edge on obvious running downs just to keep Quinn fresh.
 
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I like having him on the team. I love having him oppo Mack.
 

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Shannon Sharpe said Robert Quinn has historically suffered playing on natural grass fields. Anyone else read anything like that? Kinda concerning as we all know the Soldier Field surface is trash.
 

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He spent all but one season with Rams and Cowboys playing in a dome at home. The one season in MIami was not good so probably more of a home vs road split. He probably is a tick faster coming off the line on turf but wouldn't worry about it at this point.
 

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Shannon Sharpe said Robert Quinn has historically suffered playing on natural grass fields. Anyone else read anything like that? Kinda concerning as we all know the Soldier Field surface is trash.

Soldier Field hasn’t had problems for a few years.
 

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