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If by relatively productive you are referring to his offsides penalties then I totqally agree. He has 6 defensive offsides/neutral zone infractions, good for 6th most in the league in penalties at OLB despit ranking below 200th in snaps as a LB.

Dudes sucks ass.

He does have penalty issues, but also 5 sacks, 1 pick, 8 TFL. Who at 1.5M a year provides that?
 

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That's his cumulative stats with the Bears so far.

My problem is that he is not really doing much the rest of the time.

It is less about the money and more about my desire to get a couple of young guys in here who can be developed into something.

Give me a 2nd and 5th round pick for those reps.
 

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My problem is that he is not really doing much the rest of the time.

It is less about the money and more about my desire to get a couple of young guys in here who can be developed into something.

Give me a 2nd and 5th round pick for those reps.

Cupboard is definitely bare and the team needs to get youth, but you can't just have nothing behind your starters. For comparison, the current young guy who splits snaps with Lynch (Irving) has 1 sack, 1 TFL in 221 snaps over the last 2 years. Fat Lynch this year has 2 sacks, 3 TFL in 204 snaps. I would love to upgrade from Lynch, but show me the upgrade at a similar price point. People love to say "find someone else" without bothering to look at who else is available.

A 2nd round pick would be doable, but between OL, CB, S, and now backup OLB, you can only draft 2 with the 2nd rounders. WIndy you yourself have projected that CB and OL are the bigger needs for those 2 picks.
 

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Cupboard is definitely bare and the team needs to get youth, but you can't just have nothing behind your starters. For comparison, the current young guy who splits snaps with Lynch (Irving) has 1 sack, 1 TFL in 221 snaps over the last 2 years. Fat Lynch this year has 2 sacks, 3 TFL in 204 snaps. I would love to upgrade from Lynch, but show me the upgrade at a similar price point. People love to say "find someone else" without bothering to look at who else is available.

A 2nd round pick would be doable, but between OL, CB, S, and now backup OLB, you can only draft 2 with the 2nd rounders. WIndy you yourself have projected that CB and OL are the bigger needs for those 2 picks.

If Prince is gone I would have CB higher.

If everyone is back

1. OT
2. OLB, we do not have enough pass rush when Floyd is playing.
3. OG
4. CB, this would be #2 if Prince is cap goner.
 

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If Prince is gone I would have CB higher.

If everyone is back

1. OT
2. OLB, we do not have enough pass rush when Floyd is playing.
3. OG
4. CB, this would be #2 if Prince is cap goner.

True, I am operating under the assumption that Prince becomes a cap casualty in 2020.
 

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No Interest

Kyle Long -- he didn't impress when he came back from injury, too many injuries
Aaron Lynch -- too many unnecessary offsides/neutral zone penalties, and not produced enough
Isaiah Irving -- seems to have stopped improving, and hasn't reached a productive level in relief/substitution snaps on a good DL. Has played decent ST, but just assume taking a swing on other players.

Keep

Nick Williams -- has earned an extension
Cornelius Lucas -- re-sign as backup and compete to start
Patrick Scales
Kevin Pierre-Louis -- earned new contract
Nick K -- earned new contract
DHC -- keeps getting slightly more valuable in ST and as backup
Roy Robertson-Harris -- has faded for sure, not sure if injury issues. 2nd Rd tender at least.
Rashaad Coward -- I don't think he's good enough to start, but he's improving, certainly earned a backup position and a right to compete to start. Original Round tender or short/small contract.
Jesper Horsted -- played well, sign em
JP Holtz-- played well, sign em
Sherrick McManis -- consistent performer on ST and in backup
Deon Bush -- earned chance to be starting SS

Right Deal

HHCD -- as I said at the beginning, he might be just a decent starter, and he is, so offer him what he's worth.
Danny Trevathan -- Kwik hasn't been a liability is coverage, we have 3 more games to confirm. And I'd assume Kwik will demand being a starter somewhere. Smith has had issues enough to expect him to miss games. But I wouldn't plan to bench either. Pierre-Louis has played well. Trev has played above average, but has missed games: 2016: 7, 2017: 4, 2019: 7, and will be 30 years old come March. I don't see Danny (or Kwik) agreeing to be a backup, but maybe he/they would agree to the possibility in competition. Doesn't hurt to ask, but I just don't see it.

Not Sure

Chase Daniels -- overpriced, sure, but I think he's done his role as Vet support to Mitch and played well enough as a backup. Other options haven't become clear enough yet.
Ted Larsen -- has always played well for us. Haven't seen him much. Certainly would consider re-signing.
Brent Urban -- looked decent in limited play, but there's other player options for an attractive Bears DL.
Bradley Sowell -- haven't seen enough, a few plays early in the year weren't great, but he's new to the position. He was a decent swing tackle. I don't know where he is as a TE, or if he may return as a OT.
Alex Bars -- haven't seen enough to say.
Corey Levin -- haven't seen enough to say.
Eric Saubert -- haven't seen enough to say.
 
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https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/chicago-bears/

What to do with the Bears up coming free agents will be the next step of the offseason planning. The list below please organize into

-Keep
-No Interest
-Right Deal

Danny Trevathan
Kyle Long
HHCD
Sherrick McManis
Chase Daniels
Aaron Lynch
Bradley Sowell
Ted Larsen
Aaron Lynch
Nick Williams
Cornelius Lucas
Patrick Scales
Kevin Pierre-Louis
Brent Urban
Nick K
DHC
Deon Bush

RFA

Roy Robertson-Harris
Rashaad Coward
Isaiah Irving
Corey Levin
Eric Saubert

ERFA

Alex Bars
Jesper Horsted
JP Holtz
DOES the increased cap space helps the Bears next season? i'm sure it somewhat does but with the increase, what can a team realistically do with that money? how much was the increase?

keep
McManis
BOTH Black & White NICKS'
Holtz & Horsted
Lucas & Coward
Bars
KPL
RRH
Bush

Right deal
HaHa C.Dix (I think he likes it here)
Trevathan (i can't see him anywhere else)
DHC (in case McManis leaves)

nope-GTFO
LONG (unless he takes good care of himself)
LYNCH
DANIEL(s)

not so sure about..
Sowell
Larsen
Scales
Urban
?Levin & Saubert?
 

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Excuse me but what's the difference between "keep" and "right deal"?

Does the latter presume a below-market contract? Thank you.
 

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https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/chicago-bears/

What to do with the Bears up coming free agents will be the next step of the offseason planning. The list below please organize into

-Keep
-No Interest
-Right Deal

Danny Trevathan
Kyle Long
HHCD
Sherrick McManis
Chase Daniels
Aaron Lynch
Bradley Sowell
Ted Larsen
Aaron Lynch
Nick Williams
Cornelius Lucas
Patrick Scales
Kevin Pierre-Louis
Brent Urban
Nick K
DHC
Deon Bush

RFA

Roy Robertson-Harris
Rashaad Coward
Isaiah Irving
Corey Levin
Eric Saubert

ERFA

Alex Bars
Jesper Horsted
JP Holtz

-Keep
Patrick Scales
Kevin Pierre-Louis
Nick Kwitkoski
Deon Bush
Roy Robertson-Harris
Rashaad Coward
Alex Bars
Jesper Horsted
JP Holtz
Isaiah Irving
Corey Levin

-Right Deal
Danny Trevathan
HHCD
Sherrick McManis
Nick Williams
DeAndre Houston-Carson

- NO Interest
Kyle Long
Chase Daniel
Bradley Sowell
Ted Larsen
Aaron Lynch
Cornelius Lucas
Eric Saubert

No reason to not keep anyone who's a ERFA or RFA, except for Saubert who's only on the roster because of Braunecker's concussion and probably won't last til the end of the season anyway.
 

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Excuse me but what's the difference between "keep" and "right deal"?

Does the latter presume a below-market contract? Thank you.

Keep-I am approaching them for a team friendly deal.

Right Price-letting the market set and then making a decision, not blowing the bank for.
 

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The problem with HHCD is that he is likely to get 8-9/season. Once you pay Jackson you would have well over 20 million playing safety. That is a ton for a team that plays a lot of 2 deep looks.
 

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I think HHCD signs for 5 million. He’s been good but hasn’t been anything great. 8-9 mil for a safety is a lot of money.
 

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DOES the increased cap space helps the Bears next season? i'm sure it somewhat does but with the increase, what can a team realistically do with that money? how much was the increase?

keep
McManis
BOTH Black & White NICKS'
Holtz & Horsted
Lucas & Coward
Bars
KPL
RRH
Bush

Right deal
HaHa C.Dix (I think he likes it here)
Trevathan (i can't see him anywhere else)
DHC (in case McManis leaves)

nope-GTFO
LONG (unless he takes good care of himself)
LYNCH
DANIEL(s)

not so sure about..
Sowell
Larsen
Scales
Urban
?Levin & Saubert?

I think Urban has 4 or 5 pass deflections. Given that hes a situational player he is a competent guy in both pass and run defense.

He has gotten to the ball well on runs but lacks any pass rush. You definitely cant pass over him as an opposing QB.
 

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