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I just cant see how he sucks. He is now hitting .264 against righties, his achilles heel. Gold glove defense in center and did the work where he was struggling, supposedly could not be an everday player because he could not hit righties. Now he cant hit lefties and still gets used against lefties.. They let Heyward play daily when he was hitting .220 because of his gold glove defense.
I just cant see getting an old peralta.

Get serious and go for Blackmon, I can get behind that one. They can have Russell, Almora, Alzolay and Underwood.

Im now of the mind to stand PAT. Why trade any of em? I mean sure, unload Heyward if you can find a partner. But if that doesnt happen,it is sort of a known anyway that no one wants that contract.
Almora, Russell,Happ, Alzolay are all crazy young still.
Sometimes, it isnt your year. And dont get me wrong I am not saying we have to give up. This team has shown they are capable of getting hot.
When we won the series, everyone contributed. They need to put it all together and the old guys need rest.
The window is only shrinking for the pitchers. The batters can figure it out I think. At least let them develop so their trade value gets higher.
 

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I just cant see how he sucks. He is now hitting .264 against righties, his achilles heel. Gold glove defense in center and did the work where he was struggling, supposedly could not be an everday player because he could not hit righties. Now he cant hit lefties and still gets used against lefties.. They let Heyward play daily when he was hitting .220 because of his gold glove defense.
I just cant see getting an old peralta.

Get serious and go for Blackmon, I can get behind that one. They can have Russell, Almora, Alzolay and Underwood.

Peralta is two years younger than Blackmon
 

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It was a great setup for 1969 part 2. Let’s go! Everybody out.
 

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Peralta is two years younger than Blackmon


To be fair here:

Peralta’s health is still something of a red flag, however, as this is the second time this season that a bothersome right AC joint has sent him to the injured list. That first IL stint sidelined the outfielder for only 10 days, but any type of recurring injury has to be concerning to any interested trade partners, particularly since Peralta batted only .252/.342/.388 over 117 plate appearances in between his two trips to the injured list.

Those 117 PA make up a significant chunk of Peralta’s season, and could explain why his overall .289/.352/.476 slash line and 112 OPS+ and wRC+ over 324 PA are all down from his production in 2018 (.293/.352/.516 with 30 homers, 128 OPS+, 130 wRC+). Peralta may also be somewhat fortunate to be hitting as well as he has this season, as his .350 wOBA far outpaces a very modest .301 xwOBA.

From the MLTR report.

This is my opinion, This would be a move for next year mostly and it would open up Schwarber for trade. David has put up a 130 wRC+ and that is better than both Heyward and Schwarber. This is more about his AC joint vs a talent question.
 

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Current status: buyer
It is hard to see the Cubs shifting into sell mode, but Epstein has hinted in recent interviews that changes could be coming if the club does not right itself in the weeks leading up to the Deadline. So consider Chicago in the buyer category unless things go off the rails between the All-Star break and July 31. A division title is still very much there for the taking and Epstein said before the break that the front office is in a "proactive mindset, looking to shore up soft spots on the roster." That sure sounds like buy mode at the moment.
What they are seeking
On the pitching front, the Cubs already addressed a major need by signing free-agent closer Craig Kimbrelon June 7. Now Chicago is in the market for an impact lefty for the later innings. In the current bullpen, lefty Kyle Ryan is a ground-ball artist, but he's not a true left-on-left option. Left-hander Mike Montgomery is a swing man and offers a multi-inning option, but he is also not a traditional versus-lefties southpaw. The Cubs could really benefit from having a reliable arm to get a big lefty slugger out in a critical moment.
If the Cubs want to inject some more offense into the mix, the two best avenues are via second base or the outfield. At second, Chicago is taking a look at Robel Garcia, who slugged his way from Double-A to the Majors this season after playing the past several years overseas in Italy. He is getting time there, along with Daniel Descalso and Addison Russell, who have both struggled at the plate. In the outfield, the Cubs gave Carlos Gonzalez a shot, but he never took off. A lefty-hitting outfielder to balance the group would be ideal.
What they have to offer
Do not expect the Cubs to dangle top prospects such as shortstop Nico Hoerner, righty Adbert Alzolay or catcher Miguel Amaya in trade talks. If Chicago trades from its MLB Pipeline Top 30 prospect list, the package would probably come from the group below the very top tier. It is also possible that someone like Garcia -- while getting a look by the Cubs right now -- is a target for other teams.
Now if the Cubs were to shift into sell mode, that opens up another world of possibilities. That is when players like Cole Hamels, Brandon Kintzler, Steve Cishek or Pedro Strop might suddenly have their names pop up in trade rumors. Anyone with an expiring contract would seemingly be on the list of vulnerable players if Chicago decided to make moves with 2020 in mind.
Possible scenario
There are a handful of arms that look intriguing in light of the Cubs' need for an impact lefty in the bullpen. The one that looks like a no-brainer for the North Siders to target is Giants lefty Will Smith. The 29-year-old has been fantastic against lefties and righties, and he is under contract for $4.23 million with free agency looming. That fits the budget and would help the Cubs to avoid shipping off their most-coveted prospects.
Given Smith's status at the moment as a rental, acquiring him would not require the kind of packages that, say, Andrew Miller or Brad Hand necessitated in recent seasons due to their multiple years of control. It would likely take a couple of prospects, but not the top-of-the-rankings players. Given that landscape, it would probably come down to the Giants' preference of prospects.
 

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So I'm guessing 5-20 range for Smith

Roederer
Ademan
Davis (doubtful they would sell)
Steele
Abbott
Thompson
Short
Lange
Little
Gallardo
Velazquez
Cruz
Hatch
Richan
Miller
Giambrone

I could see Ademan, Abbott and Miller looked at in any scenerio. Steele has been crap this year post TJ. He would have to turn a corner to gain intrest. Lange has recently improved but his 1st half was crap and his velocity is down from college. Thompson injured all year. Hatch is a pen arm IMO. Short injured.

But those 3 would buy a rental.

But I'm not sure if that is the biggest need going in. I would much rather go after David Peralta to add O to the OF mix. He is injured right now but has a year of control.

I doubt that Theo sells Schwarber this year after that move. The off season is far more likely.

As far as buying a rental after. IDK if it is necessary. Buying for a LOOGY seems like a waste of resources. Buying for run generation is always worth the cost.
 

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To be fair here:

Peralta’s health is still something of a red flag, however, as this is the second time this season that a bothersome right AC joint has sent him to the injured list. That first IL stint sidelined the outfielder for only 10 days, but any type of recurring injury has to be concerning to any interested trade partners, particularly since Peralta batted only .252/.342/.388 over 117 plate appearances in between his two trips to the injured list.

Those 117 PA make up a significant chunk of Peralta’s season, and could explain why his overall .289/.352/.476 slash line and 112 OPS+ and wRC+ over 324 PA are all down from his production in 2018 (.293/.352/.516 with 30 homers, 128 OPS+, 130 wRC+). Peralta may also be somewhat fortunate to be hitting as well as he has this season, as his .350 wOBA far outpaces a very modest .301 xwOBA.

From the MLTR report.

This is my opinion, This would be a move for next year mostly and it would open up Schwarber for trade. David has put up a 130 wRC+ and that is better than both Heyward and Schwarber. This is more about his AC joint vs a talent question.

Yeah I agree that Peralta would be a bigger move for next year. If you trade for him you might as well let him sit for a while and hope he is ready come September. And I was also just bringing up Blackmon being older than Peralta because I felt it was a little ridiculous to mention we shouldn’t go after an old Peralta and in the next breath mention a guy that is actually older.
 

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Yeah I agree that Peralta would be a bigger move for next year. If you trade for him you might as well let him sit for a while and hope he is ready come September. And I was also just bringing up Blackmon being older than Peralta because I felt it was a little ridiculous to mention we shouldn’t go after an old Peralta and in the next breath mention a guy that is actually older.

I agree, but I wouldn't mind Blackmon either.

The line up needs some balance.

Bryant 148 wRC+ R
Contreras 141 R
Rizzo 135 L
Caratini (Sub) 129 SH
Baez 123 R
Heyward 110 L
Bote (Sub) 101 R
Schwarber 98 L
Russell (Sub) 85 R
Almora (Sub) 75 R
Descalso (Sub) 51 L

So Peralta would fit nice in the line up. Cut Descalso and trade for him. He is running a 112 wRC+ semi injured. Having him recover and then rehab into RF in Aug would be ideal going into Sept. I doubt that he will be down for more than that.

As far as a trade scenario I would guess the Backs would take Happ and 2 ranked prospects. ODLC and Ademan I would push.
 
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Im now of the mind to stand PAT. Why trade any of em? I mean sure, unload Heyward if you can find a partner. But if that doesnt happen,it is sort of a known anyway that no one wants that contract.
Almora, Russell,Happ, Alzolay are all crazy young still.
Sometimes, it isnt your year. And dont get me wrong I am not saying we have to give up. This team has shown they are capable of getting hot.
When we won the series, everyone contributed. They need to put it all together and the old guys need rest.
The window is only shrinking for the pitchers. The batters can figure it out I think. At least let them develop so their trade value gets higher.
My thinking though, is if they dont go deep in the playoffs this year, there is going to be something drastic done, yes, even for a 88-90 win team. Is Almora or Happ, Alzolay or Underwood going to be part of that? Underwood threw a nice game last year, got jitters in the first, settled down the next 3, why hasn't he been back? Most probably those would be the names being moved for less over the winter.
This is how this team and fan base work. Tell Almora to hit righties better to get the everyday job. He does it and still gets benched for Heywards non gold glove defense in center. I am not saying he is killing righties, but doing good enough to stay in the lineup. Most of us want KB to just get left at third base, some of us just want Heyward just left in right field.
 

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This ain't no WS team so I'm selling:

> Russel, even if they can't get much for him. At this point it's just better for all concerned for him to have a fresh start somewhere else.

> Almora: Maybe he hasn't reached his ceiling, maybe he has. I promise not to complain if he has a good career somewhere else.

> I wish they traded Schwarber in '16 when someone would have over-valued him. (You can check old threads to verify). I still wouldn't cry even if they don't get much in return.

The Cubs need a pitching prospect or two who might be ready by mid 2020. Do it Theo.

Why is Descalso still here? Waive his ass.

BTW, have we seen the last of Zobrist?
Well, considering they said there is a tentative date for Zobrist to come back. I don’t think so. Also, nice little article on cubs.com. The cubs aren’t selling. People forget the 2017 season don’t they
 

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I agree, but I wouldn't mind Blackmon either.

The line up needs some balance.

Bryant 148 wRC+ R
Contreras 141 R
Rizzo 135 L
Caratini (Sub) 129 SH
Baez 123 R
Heyward 110 L
Bote (Sub) 101 R
Schwarber 98 L
Russell (Sub) 85 R
Almora (Sub) 75 R
Descalso (Sub) 51 L

So Peralta would fit nice in the line up. Cut Descalso and trade for him. He is running a 112 wRC+ semi injured. Having him recover and then rehab into RF in Aug would be ideal going into Sept. I doubt that he will be down for more than that.

As far as a trade scenario I would guess the Backs would take Happ and 2 ranked prospects. ODLC and Ademan I would push.
Nice little article on cubs.com. Basically said, we will be buyers but we aren’t going to give up our top 3 prospects which is nico, alozay, and Amaya
 

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Nice little article on cubs.com. Basically said, we will be buyers but we aren’t going to give up our top 3 prospects which is nico, alozay, and Amaya

That is what I posted.

There was stipulations. They tank then expect a sell off of expiring for a 2020 reset.

The writer thought that they will go after a lefty first. I don't agree with it.

They need to add a bat more. That effects every game vs a situation that pays off in a series.

I think that they need to focus on getting there vs a play off weapon. That means a bat.
 

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Interesting that he didn't single out Marquez as a untouchable. He might end up a left handed starter that sits 98-100. At worst a closer that blasts 100+.

As far as pure talent and potential him and Davis are the top 2 in the system.

I could see a team going after those 2 very easily.
 

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Underwood threw a nice game last year, got jitters in the first, settled down the next 3, why hasn't he been back?

He has been pushed into long relief at Iowa. In 63.1 IP he has a 5.68 ERA. and a 1.61 WHIP.

So the short answer is he is not good.

But on this subject.

They promoted Tyson Miller up to Iowa. First start was ouch. But I tend to look at a body of work vs 1 start in a new environment. But that promotion means that if he becomes a trade target then that team would be looking at him in spring training as a starter option.

I can see him as a player that the Cubs would like to sell this deadline. He had a 2.56 ERA 1.00 WHIP at AA. That translates to Iowa this month then he becomes a hot topic.

The rest of Iowa's rotation:
Rea 10-2 3.24 ERA 1.29 WHIP. SO/9 is really low. I see him as journey man talent. Not bad because some pitchers have made a living doing that.

Swarmer: 5-8 5.68 1.40. SO/9 is in the 7-8 range. Doesn't walk many but has given up 107 hits in 95 IP. Which means great control. Command not as great. I'm not sure about him myself. Talent cap may be in place here.

Clifton. Good then bad. Hard pass. But the bad part: 3-7 4.76 ERA 1.44 WHIP. His issue is walks. Strikes out about 1 guy per. He was exposed to rule 5 and no one jumped and that was in a good phase. I don't see him as part of the plans.

Underwood I talked about.
Alozay we know about.
Robinson has been injured. He is a fellow Dartmouth grad like Hendricks. Bigger frame same style of pitcher.
Miller is the current fresh meat at AAA. But he and Abbott were the co-aces at AA. Which kinda tells me that they are showcasing Miller while trying to hold onto Abbott.
 

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