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Chicago 34-27(1st in NL Central) vs. St. Louis 31-29 (3rd in NL Central)











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Pitching Matchups


Game 1 — Friday, June 7. 1:20 p.m. CDT


Cole Hamels vs. Miles Mikolas

Game 2 — Saturday, June 8. 6:15 p.m. CDT

Jon Lester vs. Jack Flaherty

Game 3 — Sunday, June 9. 6:05 p.m. CDT

Kyle Hendricks vs. Adam Wainwright











 

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Joe is always the tinkerer.

This line up is very co-dependent on Heyward and Caratini having solid games.

Heyward in June: 123 wRC+
Caratini -100 (that is correct 0-4)
Bote 140

So It really feels like they are trying to get Victor's bat going again.

Now Cargo between Bryant and Baez is also interesting. Even a BB becomes impacting there.

The whole Rizzo thing has worked in the past. If they can get solid LH wRC+ lower then it is the best solution.
 

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"Called Third Strike" isn't starting
 

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Joe is always the tinkerer.

This line up is very co-dependent on Heyward and Caratini having solid games.

Heyward in June: 123 wRC+
Caratini -100 (that is correct 0-4)
Bote 140

So It really feels like they are trying to get Victor's bat going again.

Now Cargo between Bryant and Baez is also interesting. Even a BB becomes impacting there.

The whole Rizzo thing has worked in the past. If they can get solid LH wRC+ lower then it is the best solution.
No, the bigger problem seems to be that more pitchers on this staff would rather not pitch with Willson behind the plate.
 

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I wonder what the cost would be on him in terms of a trade but the Cubs could desperately use a guy like Alex Gordon (exp) or maybe if they wanted to try a little deeper and go after a Shin-Soo Choo but you'd need the Rangers to fall back a bit.

Couple other guys who could make sense are Adam Eaton (has a .345 OBP this year with a sub 10%K rate while having a BABIP 25 points below his career average) and Jarrod Dyson (has the CF flexibility and the speed element off the bench).

Really think the Cubs need a 2003 Kenny Lofton type rental/leadoff guy.
 
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I wonder what the cost would be on him in terms of a trade but the Cubs could desperately use a guy like Alex Gordon (exp) or maybe if they wanted to try a little deeper and go after a Shin-Soo Choo but you'd need the Rangers to fall back a bit.
Might as well be Almora since apparently nobody wants to watch his excellent defense anymore.
 

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If the game fails...

Alozay is pitching tonight 7:08 PM CDT https://www.milb.com/iowa

Going in he is at 1-2 4.32 ERA over all.
He had a rough start.

11.52 SO/9
2.52 BB/9

Last 3 starts:
17 IP. 6 Hits. 2 ER 2 BB 23 SO.
Love to see Adbert have a strong, healthy end to the year and then see him compete for the #5 spot next year. If you can continue to see progression from Yu and Adbert is a solid #5, that's 20M in savings with not much change in production for next year.

The other thing to think about with Adbert is would you move him to the bullpen for a long-term role as a potential high value reliever to help protect his injuries ala what they did with Carl a few years back. No real way to know that Edwards would simply stop progressing as a reliever.
 
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You think Almora is a legitimate CF for a contender?
He's at .8 fWAR through the Cubs 61 games so that would project to being a 2 fWAR player for the year. As a top 5 CF defender by almost any metric and a guy who hits in the bottom of the order, I don't really see the issue with Almora, he's done almost everything you thought he'd do for you in any realistic capacity.
 

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He is a plus defender and can hit left handed pitching. Any contender would have him on the roster.
My reference is as a starter. He should be on the roster as a 4th OF
 

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My reference is as a starter. He should be on the roster as a 4th OF
Your starting CF on playoff teams as of today's record

Dodgers - Verdugo
Brewers - Cain
Phillies - Herrera (Kingery with him suspended)
Braves - Acuna

Yankess - Gardner
Rays - Kiermaier
Twins - Buxton
Red Sox - Bradley Jr.
Astros - Springer

He's like 6th on that list most likely (Cain, Verdugo, Springer, Buxton, and Acuna ahead of him). Not sure that's a real complaint.
 

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You think Almora is a legitimate CF for a contender?
He'd definitely be an everyday starter with his defense as long as he didn't totally suckass offensively if he had a LFer and RFer who could hit somewhat consistently next to him..
 

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Classic Javy to take two really tough pitches to get full and then swing through an out of the zone pitch to start the DP. Massive difference between 2 on and no out and no one and 2 out.
 

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Then a weird double by Heyward (ground ball left of the 1B and right of the 2B) and then a great double by Caratini only nets one run instead of potentially two or three.
 

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He'd definitely be an everyday starter with his defense as long as he didn't totally suckass offensively if he had a LFer and RFer who could hit somewhat consistently next to him..
I don't mind him if they are stacking the line up heavy wRC+.

They really start to suffer when they start prioritizing D over O.

Just take his earlier AB. Every pitch was down a D away. Instead of letting the pitcher beat himself he played right into it and hit into a DP.

That is why you are a fool to think he is every day. He is a D sub that hits left well. Stop trying to make him into this star.

Guy must be allergic to walks. Pathetic.
 
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