Kirk Cousins is NOW 0-8 on MNF

[Pegger]

None of those were backup QBs, which solidifies my point. You are arguing talent level, but it's quite different to have your starting QB who has been running the offense all year go down and you bring in a 2nd stringer.

Hold on. Foles was a legit starter. Look at his production from his first stint in Philly. After that Jeff Fisher broke him, but then again Fisher broke a lot of decent starting QBs. i fyou compare his stats to that of Manning and Flacco earlier in his career it's not like he was worse, but rather he was a lower draft pick, so the team was less committed to sticking with him.

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
2012	23	PHI	qb	9	7	6	1-5-0	161	265	60.8	1699	6	2.3	5	1.9	78	46	6.4	6.0	10.6	242.7	79.1	51.2	20	131	5.50	5.13	7.0	1	1	4
2013*	24	PHI	QB	9	13	10	8-2-0	203	317	64.0	2891	27	8.5	2	0.6	130	63	9.1	10.5	14.2	222.4	119.2	71.5	28	173	7.88	9.18	8.1	1	1	11
2014	25	PHI	QB	9	8	8	6-2-0	186	311	59.8	2163	13	4.2	10	3.2	101	68	7.0	6.3	11.6	270.4	81.4	64.1	9	74	6.53	5.93	2.8	2	3	5
2015	26	STL	QB	5	11	11	4-7-0	190	337	56.4	2052	7	2.1	10	3.0	85	68	6.1	5.2	10.8	186.5	69.0	28.1	14	98	5.57	4.68	4.0	1	1	3
2016	27	KAN	qb	4	3	1	1-0-0	36	55	65.5	410	3	5.5	0	0.0	15	49	7.5	8.5	11.4	136.7	105.9	31.8	4	34	6.37	7.39	6.8			1
2017	28	PHI	qb	9	7	3	2-1-0	57	101	56.4	537	5	5.0	2	2.0	29	35	5.3	5.4	9.4	76.7	79.5	34.7	5	44	4.65	4.75	4.7	1	2	2
2018	29	PHI	qb	9	5	5	4-1-0	141	195	72.3	1413	7	3.6	4	2.1	87	83	7.2	7.0	10.0	282.6	96.0	67.4	9	47	6.70	6.50	4.4	2	2	4
2019	30	JAX	qb	7	4	4	0-4-0	77	117	65.8	736	3	2.6	2	1.7	31	39	6.3	6.0	9.6	184.0	84.6	33.6	8	60	5.41	5.17	6.4
Career				58	48	26-22-0	1051	1698	61.9	11901	71	4.2	35	2.1	556	83	7.0	6.9	11.3	205.2	88.2		97	661	6.26	6.18	5.4	8	10	3

 

[Pegger]

I think the D turning it on...has a lot to do with with your above examples. Although Flacco and Manning were unbeatable in those years because they didn't turn the ball over in the post season.

No doubt Flacco got hot in the 2012 playoffs. That defense was only average, so they needed the QB to play out of his mind. That might be the best 4 game stretch of Flacco's entire career. That 4 game performance lead to him becoming the highest paid QB that following season, which ended up being a horrible choice by the Ravens as he never played to that level again.

For Peyton the story is very different. In the 3 playoff games in 2015 he threw for 539 yards, had 2 total TDs, 1 Int and lost 2 fumbles. Peyton was pretty much useless that year. He hurt (only suited up 10 games), had more picks than TDs (17 to 9) and had the lowest yards per game (224), QB Rating (68) and QBR (44) of his entire career. I'm a big Peyton Manning fan and I remember watching him that year and it seems as if his throwing velocity dropped so much that he didn't know if guys were open any more (because he couldn't execute anymore). Unlike Flacco he didn't turn his Superbowl win into an extension, but rather retired.