If Grossman was good they could have won in 06 and 2010 and 2012 could have been SB years if Cutler was good. That “could have” come to 4 SBs with counting 85.
I feel the same way.
That's because you need both (as a general rule)
I was replying to a post by spartan who said “defense wins championships”. Notice he made no mention of the offense at all and said “championships” in the plural form. I brought up the packers and patriots because in the Packers case they have had 2 back to back HOF QBs and 2 SBs. The Patriots have the best QB ever and have 6. For comparisons the 85 Bears won one Super Bowl. The great 2000 Ravens defense only won one Super Bowl. Great offenses win more SBs than great defenses, especially recently.
You are able to say that cause you have no clue. Even look at the Patriots, in all those post seasons in which they won SBs, you'll find their defense was ranked very near the top as far as points allowed per game. In most of those seasons they were ranked #1 or #2. Talked about the Giants being #1 in both their SB years. Last time Packers won, their QB got all the credit while their D ranked 2nd in the post season. Eagles needed more than Foles, #3 D. Broncos, Seahawks, Steelers, Bucs all brought the D. Yes, defense wins championships the overwhelming majority of the time.
Go back and watch them play the rams in 2001, for example. They won with D.
You're missing the point, for the most part those great offenses won when they were paired with a good defense. You don't really see good offenses 'carrying' bad defences to a championship, but the inverse happens at a pretty substantial clip.
Why do you got so much hate in your blood?
Eli will get in...because simply put.... he's a "YES boy" a good ole little boy.
Baffler, we are in agreement here. Eli and his sped numbers dont matter as he robot walks into the hall becuase of 2 SBs. Book it bitches!
Oh really? Please list the other teams to win multiple SB's with the same average QB.
Him being a shoe-in deserving of and him making the HOF are two different things. I don't see how a 2X SB winner, one of 12 all time, that is also 7th all time in passing yards, 8th all time in passing TD, 6th in attempts and completions gets excluded. He was a significant factor in the sport for a very long time and his name recognition doesn't hurt.
I could see it happening for the reasons you stated, but I personally don't think it will.
As inconvenient as this truth may be, Eli Manning is a walking hall of fame QB.
That wasn't me you quoted. Wake up, bub. I have no hate.
Talking about a bitch who dragged his team down for 13 of his 15 years of playing. Then when they take him on a magic carpet ride stupid, ignorant fans act like he didn't suck all that time.2008 superbowl XLII
Eli throws TD to Burress :35 left to go
super bowl XLVI in 2012
Eli & crew drives to score 21 to Patriots 17, :59 left in game
That's TWICE Eli won.
ELI drove his fucking team down field like a clutch QB and won, SO TELL ME, wtf are you talking bout?
You forgot the “future hall of famer” part before “bitch”
