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Green Bay over Chicago in the NFC North. I’m betting on Aaron Rodgers, healthy and presumably challenged by Matt LaFleur, over Mitchell Trubisky. The Bears’ defense could be the NFL’s best. I’m still unconvinced about the offense, which averaged 19.5 points in the last six games last year. And heaven knows if they’ll ever find a kicker who can win games. If I’m wrong, it will be because Matt Nagy figures out how to compensate for what Trubisky can’t do.

Trubisky continues, consistently, to be viewed as the achilles heel of an otherwise championship caliber team.

What is it those analysts don't see that the CCS experts do?
 

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LOL at the baked in excuse for why Trubisky may play better than they expect. No sane fan gives a shit what any outsider says anyways. Let them talk. Its all they can do. I mean its either that or we suddenly all agree that Mahomes' undisputed MVP season was nothing more than a product of Andy Reid's system compensating. Which is apparently what they're implying.
 

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Green Bay over Chicago in the NFC North. I’m betting on Aaron Rodgers, healthy and presumably challenged by Matt LaFleur, over Mitchell Trubisky. The Bears’ defense could be the NFL’s best. I’m still unconvinced about the offense, which averaged 19.5 points in the last six games last year. And heaven knows if they’ll ever find a kicker who can win games. If I’m wrong, it will be because Matt Nagy figures out how to compensate for what Trubisky can’t do.

Trubisky continues, consistently, to be viewed as the achilles heel of an otherwise championship caliber team.

What is it those analysts don't see that the CCS experts do?
who knows what they do or don't see...they have opinions and they express them...practically, all players need to prove themselves. Mitch is no different, he gets to write his own description with his play...we get to watch it unfold before our eyes...should be fun!
 

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That isn't what he said.
Actually its literally in what you quoted. "If I’m wrong, it will be because Matt Nagy figures out how to compensate for what Trubisky can’t do."

As if its some fucking Matt Nagy, Sean McVay, Andy Reid magic being used to tailor the offense around their quarterback and his surrounding pieces. Its called competent coaching.
 

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As a MT skeptic, I really do think he could come out gunning tomorrow and rack up a lot of yards. I believe he can be better; I believe he will because he'll understand the offense better.

If he does these things, I will not disparage his numbers with "Nagy got him there," like numerous dipshits here who said Goff isn't even a top ten talent because of McVay.

My biggest concern is the overthrows, and I think we are just going to have to live with those. I don't think he's going to outgrow it. Hopefully, he's able to keep it to a minimum and our defense can get us to a SB.
 

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Green Bay over Chicago in the NFC North. I’m betting on Aaron Rodgers, healthy and presumably challenged by Matt LaFleur, over Mitchell Trubisky. The Bears’ defense could be the NFL’s best. I’m still unconvinced about the offense, which averaged 19.5 points in the last six games last year. And heaven knows if they’ll ever find a kicker who can win games. If I’m wrong, it will be because Matt Nagy figures out how to compensate for what Trubisky can’t do.

Trubisky continues, consistently, to be viewed as the achilles heel of an otherwise championship caliber team.

What is it those analysts don't see that the CCS experts do?
I think a big reason is that we watched every game, whereas most national analysts only watched the nationally televised games, and Trubisky had his worst games on national television (most notably the Rams game where he was just coming back from an injured throwing shoulder and played like shit).
 

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Citing Peter King as an “expert” is red meat for outrage.

I prefer guys like Baldinger, Orlovsky, Brooks, Riddick, Bowen and Jeremiah. You know like real experts...
 

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Actually its literally in what you quoted. "If I’m wrong, it will be because Matt Nagy figures out how to compensate for what Trubisky can’t do."
He's predicting Packers over Bears in the division. He says if he's wrong it will be because Nagy manages to compensate for Trubisky. He said nothing about Trubisky playing better, but the Bears finding a way to win despite him.

If the Bears win because Trubisky was great, he, me, and most people will have to eat their words. Nobody believes in him. I admit I don't.
 

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So when will the 'told you so' threads start popping up tomorrow?

First completion/incompletion?
End of the first drive?
First TD or turnover?
First almost int or dropped td?
 

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Wasn’t expecting a near consensus from media outlets that the Bears are going to have a down year. I’m actually shocked to be honest.

Guess tomorrow is 1 chance of many for the team to disprove these notions. If they do win (and I expect them too) hopefully it isn’t in spite of Trubisky.
 

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Blah, nothing new. I think we all know it's on Trubisky, we have a super bowl caliber team surrounding him IF he takes that next step, the so called analysts "experts" will be eating crow, and maybe laptops!
 

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I think a big reason is that we watched every game, whereas most national analysts only watched the nationally televised games, and Trubisky had his worst games on national television (most notably the Rams game where he was just coming back from an injured throwing shoulder and played like shit).
Yeah, I get the impression that most of the national analysts watched the first two games of the season, the Rams game, and then the playoff game. Early on, he definitely was rough figuring out the offense. Than Rams game was rough coming off the injury. And early on in the playoff game was kinda meh, but for anyone paying attention that tends to happen with most young qb's in their first playoff game.

Imo, if Parkey makes that kick, then the narrative on Trubisky is very different all offseason. Suddenly, he is a guy that can lead his team to a last second victory - making clutch throws when his team needs him most. Instead, they forget about that part and focus on the narrative that says he is not good enough. I think the other overlooked guy from that game is Allen Robinson for similar reasons. They win that game and Robinson gets talked about as being that #1 receiver that showed up big in the playoff game - which he is and did.

But most of the national guys are lazy and they tend to feed off of each other on the narratives. If any of them step outside the narrative, the other guys seem to get really surprised.
 

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So when will the 'told you so' threads start popping up tomorrow?

First completion/incompletion?
End of the first drive?
First TD or turnover?
First almost int or dropped td?
I've been spraying to all fields with my predictions so I can say I told you so to anyone.

Honestly though, if Trubisky really struggles I'm going to have a tough time keeping the faith. I don't know why, but I'm coming out of the off-season without as much faith as I'd like and less patience than is probably fair.
 
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