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No further developments, hopefully it was an acute event - still unsure wtf happened. % of my 6 plants were affected, I isolated the 6th plant far from the others for safekeeping.
Issue: when I saw the tops of the colas browned and nasty, I cut the entire cola down. For many of them there are significant portions of the cola that do not seem affected, yet they were on the same stem and adjacent to the affected portion, so now what to do with those seemingly (?) unaffected buds - dry them? Toss them out as a safety precaution? What would TBD do?
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You only need to remove the affected portion. Then I would wash them in a cup of hydrogen peroxide and 2 gallons water then rinse in a 2 gallon water one cup baking soda and a cup of lemon juice and finally a rinse in plain water. This will kill any remaining buggies and also wash the bud if it has any dirty leftovers. This will NOT affect the trichs as they are oil based and water and oil do not mix. This might cut down on the smell of the buds once they are dry but will not affect the THC content. I know it sounds crazy but it is a common practice among some growers. Some do it to their entire crop before drying. I did last year. Once dry inspect again for any mold or rot.
Here is a link of a dude doing it.
I do not agree with him that you need to do your entire plant regardless of whether you get mold or not. I am NOT washing mine this year at all but if you have rot it is pretty much a necessity
Make sure and examine the buds carefully for any additional rot or bugs or worms or any other crawly things.
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That's my project for tomorrow, your Master Weed Jedi knowledge base and willingness to mentor a beginner like me is gracious and invaluable, cheers TBD, have a good toke tonight!
BTW, I refer to the rot in my colas as "Trubudsky".
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A pic of my compost bin. Prob about a pound of buds in it, truly tragic.
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Tossed out a few more ounces this morning.....painful
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Well I'm sure the next grow will go better.
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From what I saw of your pics you are still going to be pushing 5+ pounds. I threw out an entire plant that I was worried had mold and still had so much I have to just give it all away. Great stocking stuffers.
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If it is bud rot, probably happened with the right humid and stuffy environment after a few of your leaders snapped, allowing the rot in. Give your plants more space between outside next year. In an area that gets a bit of breeze.
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Update: the condition (rot? other?) is continuing to spread, albeit at a pretty slow pace. My 6th and final plant has now also been affected.
Question: should I pull the plants now to avoid further spread, even though the trichomes are still clear? These plants may need another 1-3 weeks for the trichs to get milked-up, but by then IDK how much unaffected bud may remain.
Question: should I pull the plants now to avoid further spread, even though the trichomes are still clear? These plants may need another 1-3 weeks for the trichs to get milked-up, but by then IDK how much unaffected bud may remain.
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It's tough to answer not being there to see everything. Bud rot is spread by spores, so when cleaning up, you have to be very careful not to spread, or scatter more spores. This may be a painful learning experience for you this year.
You need more spacing, better ventilation, less moisture, and some breeze next time. Maybe try a different strain also. Some strains have densely structured flowers with tight internodes that offer a more inviting environment for the spores. Or bad genetics can also make plants susceptible.
The spores are everywhere, from other plants too. It's the proper conditions that allow them to form bud rot.
You may have to meticulously go through all your buds, and discard all (and more) that are infected. You may even have to do the wash TBD explained.
I feel for you, but I suspect you will likely not succumb to this in the future.
And tell your gardener to stick to the beds and other shrubs, and you'll deal with the ganja crop.
=Next time avoid watering the leaves and buds, and just stick to keeping the roots moist. Lots of plants don't like water sitting on the leaves and flowers. It just asks for rot or mildew. It's why one should never water any outdoor plant at night. Sitting water is a bane.
You need more spacing, better ventilation, less moisture, and some breeze next time. Maybe try a different strain also. Some strains have densely structured flowers with tight internodes that offer a more inviting environment for the spores. Or bad genetics can also make plants susceptible.
The spores are everywhere, from other plants too. It's the proper conditions that allow them to form bud rot.
You may have to meticulously go through all your buds, and discard all (and more) that are infected. You may even have to do the wash TBD explained.
I feel for you, but I suspect you will likely not succumb to this in the future.
And tell your gardener to stick to the beds and other shrubs, and you'll deal with the ganja crop.
=Next time avoid watering the leaves and buds, and just stick to keeping the roots moist. Lots of plants don't like water sitting on the leaves and flowers. It just asks for rot or mildew. It's why one should never water any outdoor plant at night. Sitting water is a bane.
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Thanks for the pro tips, duly noted for next year.
I really need to understand the underlying problem: what could cause the top halves of the tallest colas from appearing completely healthy to turning light brown and completely dried out in a manner of only 4-5 hours. And then the condition just stops spreading any further within that cola and does not spread further. It ha snot affected any of the buds that are not the tallest on the plant.
Any theories?
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Have you found ANY critters in those buds? Spiders, worms, etc?
The rot may have been in those buds for some time. It works from inside out. What did the inside of those buds look like? Any grey fungus?
Again, really hard to diagnose strictly from a few pics.
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The bets pic i have is in post #194 above. That was the nastiest one of them all, when I chopped of the cola the remaining stem and flower look completely normal.
No visible signs of critters.
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If you saw no critters, and no fungus, I am starting to think it may be a root problem. Too much moisture, and bad drainage. Root problems restricting nutrient flow can easily cause buds at the extremities to brown out quickly.
Bacteria likes warm and moist conditions.
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Thanks for the input, still unsure how safe the flower is to consume.
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All I can suggest there is to discard what looks off, and wash the rest.
It sucks, and I feel for you. Outdoor growing adds some complications, not being able to completely control the environment. But you can grow outdoors to great effect.
See what you can salvage, and chalk it up as a learning season, and kill it next year.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm NOT going to wash 6 plants. Current options are:
1. toss all of i and write off the entire crop, or
2. cut off the main stalks from each plant and toss them, and just harvest the side branches and stalks, and not wash those
