PFF: Fixing the Bears OL

[Bearly]

why would they not try and upgrade leno? they could cut him and save 3 mill if they choose to but it'll be dependent on who they find in the draft...Glenn was not very good for the bengals but he was also not healthy either, he was supposedly rushed back and did not get along with the staff..he will not command big money because he's been unable to stay healthy...so whats the downside? Stay with Leno and his averse blocking skills? If you havent seen his 2019 film just watch how poor it truly is. Leno played pace in 2018 and got his money.

Cutting a constantly healthy LT for an constantly injured one without better stats and then needing to play a backup for most of the season? In his prime, Glenn averaged over 7 sacks a year, the same as Leno has over the last 2.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Tice?

Maybe Hiestand?
Which if it is, they do talk like he's a God

 

[dabears70]

Chicago Bears Draft: The offensive line can be mended with this late pick

The Chicago Bears still need help along the offensive line. The line cannot be fixed, but drafting Yasir Durant late could help mend it.

beargoggleson.com

 

[TL1961]

Chicago Bears Draft: The offensive line can be mended with this late pick

The Chicago Bears still need help along the offensive line. The line cannot be fixed, but drafting Yasir Durant late could help mend it.

beargoggleson.com

That article suggests the Bears could fix their offensive line problems by waiting until the sixth round and drafting a guy who would come in and back up the people who played poorly last year. I guess I missed how that fixes anything. Apparently there are websites where people just ramble on their ideas on fixing teams that make no sense other than just this forum.

 

[Bearly]

Chicago Bears Draft: The offensive line can be mended with this late pick

The Chicago Bears still need help along the offensive line. The line cannot be fixed, but drafting Yasir Durant late could help mend it.

beargoggleson.com

I wish guys like this would just post here like other fans. Way too many ameteur writers with no special insight on the webs while real connected journalists fall to the wayside.

 

[Enasic]

Trade back with both 2nd round picks.

Draft an OT in the 2nd.
Draft another OG in the mid rounds.

Coward/Bars/Ifredi/Rook compete for the starting RG spot.

2nd round OT competes with Massie.

Leno starts at LT. In the end, it probably shakes up as Leno-Daniels-Whitehair-Bars-Rookie.

With a different scheme and better coaching, the line should be improved. That’s not a dominant group, but there’s some pieces there and it would be a young OL overall. More than serviceable with competent QB play and a better run scheme.

 

[WindyCity]

Crazy idea, why don't we invest actual assets in the OL instead of throwing a late round pick at it and hoping it is better?

 

[NCChiFan]

Crazy idea, why don't we invest actual assets in the OL instead of throwing a late round pick at it and hoping it is better?

Which is exactly why I did not understand the Bears lack of F/A O line signings, well until they signed the kid from the Seahawks. The only thing I can figure is Bars is a LOT better than they are letting on.

Edit: Bears signed 2 TE, paying a lot for 1, and zero Guards. Whaaah?

 

[PeterMbangala]

Which is exactly why I did not understand the Bears lack of F/A O line signings, well until they signed the kid from the Seahawks. The only thing I can figure is Bars is a LOT better than they are letting on.

Edit: Bears signed 2 TE, paying a lot for 1, and zero Guards. Whaaah?

They have to be looking at the interior OL with one of their second round picks. It may not be perfect but at least you then have a few bodies to throw at the vacant RG position.

It looks to me like they are leaving the tackle position alone and crossing their fingers.

 

[HearshotKDS]

What's the cap hit for cutting Leno or Massie outright?

If you cut both today, it would only create $2.9M of room in 2020, but come with over $5M in dead money spread out between 2021 and 2022.

So you get almost no relief and a significant penalties in the 2 years after next.

 

[Toast88]

On some level, because of the money already sunk into the O-Line, it’s simply on the existing personnel to play better. Hopefully the new offensive coaches can help with that.

I think it’s a given there’s some draft help coming for the O-Line, but I wouldn’t count on that to save the day. They’re just going to have to play better......

 

[E.F.Hutton]

I'm holding judgement on this line until I see what and how Castillo does. And when/if they solve the RG position.

 

[Starion]

I'm reading that the 2nd level OL prospects are late 2nd to 3rd Rd value but would be considered reaches early to mid 2nd. This is actually good for a trade down to add another mid Rd. pick. Could package a few of these late ones to get a 3rd pick in 3rd. Perfect for decent OL prospect or 2 out of those 3 picks.

 

[dabears70]

Bears to Meet with Offensive Lineman Josh Jones, Whose Draft Stock Is on the Rise - Bleacher Nation

Josh Jones appears to have a little bit of nasty in his game.

www.bleachernation.com

 

[elbandido]

I'm reading that the 2nd level OL prospects are late 2nd to 3rd Rd value but would be considered reaches early to mid 2nd. This is actually good for a trade down to add another mid Rd. pick. Could package a few of these late ones to get a 3rd pick in 3rd. Perfect for decent OL prospect or 2 out of those 3 picks.

That's an option. Will depend on overall stragy (if any) vs BPA.
There will be very interesting players in rds 4 and 5 still. And we've got so many position to upgrade or simply to fill...

 

[The Big Grabowski]

Based on player rankings it looks like Ruiz is probably gone by our 1st pick. Cushenberry likely will be there. What other interior OL is worth 43?

I’d be looking at a T but there’s a nice cloud of players with good value to make a trade down the right move unless a WR like Mims or Reagor is there.

Trading down with either (or both) 2s adding a 3rd opens up other options at WR with this ultra deep class.

I think we probably add 1 OL early but we could double up and grab a WR giving the offense a big boost early.

Or we could go TE, S, or CB in there too.

 

[NCChiFan]

Based on player rankings it looks like Ruiz is probably gone by our 1st pick. Cushenberry likely will be there. What other interior OL is worth 43?

I’d be looking at a T but there’s a nice cloud of players with good value to make a trade down the right move unless a WR like Mims or Reagor is there.

Trading down with either (or both) 2s adding a 3rd opens up other options at WR with this ultra deep class.

I think we probably add 1 OL early but we could double up and grab a WR giving the offense a big boost early.

Or we could go TE, S, or CB in there too.

That's right, Ruiz, a Center. He was the guy I've heard some "experts" expect the Bears to grab with the first pick in the second round. Said he's perhaps the Best Interior lineman in the draft. Move Whitehair over to Guard. Hope he lasts, but who knows.

 

[dreadpirateroberts]

I was dissecting Matt Miller’s new mock draft and it’s kind of interesting in terms of OL. He has Ruiz going in the first, so I’m not expecting him to be available at 43. In the 2nd, he has Niang, Wilson, and Simpson going in the 50s. Hunt goes in the early 3rd then he doesn’t have Cushenberry and Lewis going until the mid 3rd. Not to mention that he has Reagor going in the late 2nd, and Aiyuk and Shenault in the 3rd. If the draft was going to pan out that way, I’m definitely trading back with at least one of the 2nds, if not both.

 

[The Big Grabowski]

That's right, Ruiz, a Center. He was the guy I've heard some "experts" expect the Bears to grab with the first pick in the second round. Said he's perhaps the Best Interior lineman in the draft. Move Whitehair over to Guard. Hope he lasts, but who knows.

Ruiz can play any of the three interior positions, but write ups suggest he’s capable of starting at center early as a rookie. He could go in the late first and I doubt he’s there for us.

I was dissecting Matt Miller’s new mock draft and it’s kind of interesting in terms of OL. He has Ruiz going in the first, so I’m not expecting him to be available at 43. In the 2nd, he has Niang, Wilson, and Simpson going in the 50s. Hunt goes in the early 3rd then he doesn’t have Cushenberry and Lewis going until the mid 3rd. Not to mention that he has Reagor going in the late 2nd, and Aiyuk and Shenault in the 3rd. If the draft was going to pan out that way, I’m definitely trading back with at least one of the 2nds, if not both.

Yeah that sounds consistent to what I’m seeing. There’s several clusters of players in the 2nd and 3rd that give us trade down flexibility.

WR is deeper than T so I think you can wait longer on that position. Similarly the value at TE falls to the 3rd and later outside of Kmet.

Daniel Jeremiah has solid write ups on the top 50 on NFL.com:

Daniel Jeremiah's Top 50: 2020 NFL Draft prospect rankings 4.0

With the 2020 NFL Draft set to kick off later this month, Daniel Jeremiah revisits his ranking of the top 50 overall prospects. Two QBs -- including Oklahoma's Jalen Hurts -- are rising up the board ahead of Round 1.

www.nfl.com

 

[rawdawg]

Part of me feels like Pace will wait to get an offensive lineman. One thing that stuck out to me in one of the press conferences was Pace saying that they didn't feel they had a talent problem on the OL, basically alluding to coaching being an issue. They obviously really like Bars, as they prevented him from going to the Patriots during the season. The have Coward. And they signed Ifedi. All 3 can play guard and tackle. And that may be an open competition for the starting RG position. So, if that's the case, I don't see them necessarily adding a 4th guy there. That means they could go more for a swing tackle. If Bars is the RG, Ifedi has proven he's not a good RT. Coward probably isn't going to be much better there. And if a swing T is the target, I can see them waiting until the 3rd day to get a guy to develop at tackle, especially since it's a deep OL class.