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So who's playing for a spot in game 4? And who beats out their competition?

Scott / Britton / Webb
Does only one of these guys make the team? If he's healthy enough, is it Scott over Webb? Or would we consider taking 9 OL into the season and bring two of these guys along?

Anderson / Toliver
I'm assuming Weems and Wilson are making it, which surprises even me since until recently, I was almost certain that Wilson would be headed to the PS. I'm still not sure he's really ready, but he's shown well enough with the 1st and 2nd teams, that I think he'll make it.
Which leaves a potential last WR slow, assuming we take six, that would come down to Anderson and Toliver I think.
Toliver has actually been playing more with the 2nd team than Anderson has, but Anderson is a much better ST player. And I think that might win him the spot.

Adams / Onobun
Onobun has just about closed the door on this competition, but he's gonna get one more crack at it.
If Adams doesn't blow it, I think he wins the spot by default.

Whiteside / Minter
I think the final DT spot comes down to these two with Whiteside making the team and Minter headed to the PS.
Minter has some great intangibles. A huge motor, and lots of effort, but he's a bull in a china shop right now. Blowing past plays and playing out of control out there at times.
He's gonna need a little refinement I think.

Ford / Allen
Not sure this is even a question any longer. Given Allen's health and Ford's performance.

Costanzo / JT Thomas
This one is probably just about wrapped up, with Costanzo winning the final LB spot. But who knows, maybe a great showing by Thomas would make the decision a little tougher.

Ozougwu / Washington
Washington helped his cause quite a bit last week, but before that, he hadn't done a whole lot, and hasn't really done much against anything more than the third stringers.
Ozougwu has outplayed him in the three preseason games and I think makes the roster, with Washington headed to the PS.

Palmer / Edwards
The Edwards / Palmer duel now becomes more interesting. As one of them may actually wind up on the team.
Does whoever starts the game have the advantage in the coaches mind?

C.J. Wilson / Hurst
Personally, I've liked what I've seen from Wilson more than Hurst. But with a decent showing from Hurst, maybe this is still a close call.

Fiametta / Unga
Can Unga return this week and make enough of an impression to have a shot at this spot? Probably not.
But I haven't been terribly impressed with Fiametta to be honest. So maybe there's a sliver of hope there for Unga.


Anyone else?
 

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All of these story lines are what make games like the one we're going to see Thursday worth watching. At this point, I do have faith that Emery and Trestman will get this right.
That was not the case with the last "brain trust."
 

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Hmm...

I think Webb has the inside track. He can play both L and R, well ok, he can stand up and look good playing both LT and RT, while Scott hasn't played any LT and has a bad wheel. Britt has been as bad as Webb without the game experience and frankly, playing as bad as Webb, well I didn't think it was possible.

Anderson makes the team, Toliver is the odd man out.

Adams if either make it, as Onobun can't catch a pass to save his life.

Minter would be my pick here, but not sure either would see much playing time.

To me, I would take Ford over Allen but in fairness Allen has been hurt.

Costanzo, though I don't care for his demonstrative nature, but he's a ST'r... I think JT will be the odd man out here.

Not sure if either Washington or Ozougwu make the team but I could see them on the PT.

What is scary about Edwards is that he is smart, and we tend to like smart but can't throw for a lick back up QB's. Lets see how this one pans out after next game.

Finally, Wilson and Fiametta have the inside track in both positions. That could change but I doubt it.
 

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Hmm...

I think Webb has the inside track. He can play both L and R, well ok, he can stand up and look good playing both LT and RT, while Scott hasn't played any LT and has a bad wheel. Britt has been as bad as Webb without the game experience and frankly, playing as bad as Webb, well I didn't think it was possible.

Anderson makes the team, Toliver is the odd man out.

Adams if either make it, as Onobun can't catch a pass to save his life.

Minter would be my pick here, but not sure either would see much playing time.

To me, I would take Ford over Allen but in fairness Allen has been hurt.

Costanzo, though I don't care for his demonstrative nature, but he's a ST'r... I think JT will be the odd man out here.

Not sure if either Washington or Ozougwu make the team but I could see them on the PT.

What is scary about Edwards is that he is smart, and we tend to like smart but can't throw for a lick back up QB's. Lets see how this one pans out after next game.

Finally, Wilson and Fiametta have the inside track in both positions. That could change but I doubt it.

One of them has to make it, we have 3 tight end sets.
 

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So who's playing for a spot in game 4? And who beats out their competition?

Scott / Britton / Webb
Does only one of these guys make the team? If he's healthy enough, is it Scott over Webb? Or would we consider taking 9 OL into the season and bring two of these guys along?

Anderson / Toliver
I'm assuming Weems and Wilson are making it, which surprises even me since until recently, I was almost certain that Wilson would be headed to the PS. I'm still not sure he's really ready, but he's shown well enough with the 1st and 2nd teams, that I think he'll make it.
Which leaves a potential last WR slow, assuming we take six, that would come down to Anderson and Toliver I think.
Toliver has actually been playing more with the 2nd team than Anderson has, but Anderson is a much better ST player. And I think that might win him the spot.

Adams / Onobun
Onobun has just about closed the door on this competition, but he's gonna get one more crack at it.
If Adams doesn't blow it, I think he wins the spot by default.

Whiteside / Minter
I think the final DT spot comes down to these two with Whiteside making the team and Minter headed to the PS.
Minter has some great intangibles. A huge motor, and lots of effort, but he's a bull in a china shop right now. Blowing past plays and playing out of control out there at times.
He's gonna need a little refinement I think.

Ford / Allen
Not sure this is even a question any longer. Given Allen's health and Ford's performance.

Costanzo / JT Thomas
This one is probably just about wrapped up, with Costanzo winning the final LB spot. But who knows, maybe a great showing by Thomas would make the decision a little tougher.

Ozougwu / Washington
Washington helped his cause quite a bit last week, but before that, he hadn't done a whole lot, and hasn't really done much against anything more than the third stringers.
Ozougwu has outplayed him in the three preseason games and I think makes the roster, with Washington headed to the PS.

Palmer / Edwards
The Edwards / Palmer duel now becomes more interesting. As one of them may actually wind up on the team.
Does whoever starts the game have the advantage in the coaches mind?

C.J. Wilson / Hurst
Personally, I've liked what I've seen from Wilson more than Hurst. But with a decent showing from Hurst, maybe this is still a close call.

Fiametta / Unga
Can Unga return this week and make enough of an impression to have a shot at this spot? Probably not.
But I haven't been terribly impressed with Fiametta to be honest. So maybe there's a sliver of hope there for Unga.


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i think certain spots are virtually locked up
Adams over onobun unless onobun REALLY steps up like completely dominates.
Minter over whiteside, depth at DT is virtually nonexistent and minter has good upside as a 3tech.
Ford over allen, this is a no brainer as ford showed good special teams play, solid runner and decent pass catcher
Washington over Ozougwu, cheta did play better but aside from his speed rush lacks pass rush moves and is strictly a pass rush specialist, washington has the power to hold up against the run and rush the passer as his moves become more refined.
webb over britton/scott, as sad as it is, webb will win this battle, scott just cant seem to stay healthy and so webb is the best option as a swing tackle, britton was horrible as a LT.
costanzo/thomas - agree with op its costonzo's job to lose

the real battles imo are
anderson/tolliver - anderson in the lead
fiametta/unga - fiametta in the lead
wilson/hurst - wilson takes it unless he has poor showing
palmer/edwards - think they go with palmer to develop unless he is just flat out terrible
 

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Is Washington going to clear waivers?

I know everyone is really high on our Draft class this year, and rightfully so. But most of these guys would still clear waivers.

I'm not sure if any of these guys, except Long and maybe Bostic wouldn't clear waivers. And it has nothing to do with their talent, or potential talent.
It has a lot more to do with bringing in a guy and guaranteeing him a spot on the 53 man roster for the remainder of the season, that hasn't been with the team at all ... missed all of the OTA's, and Training camp and hasn't played a single down in a regular season game before.

These guys are unproven rookies ... even if they have a ton of potential.
 

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i think certain spots are virtually locked up
Adams over onobun unless onobun REALLY steps up like completely dominates.
Minter over whiteside, depth at DT is virtually nonexistent and minter has good upside as a 3tech.
Ford over allen, this is a no brainer as ford showed good special teams play, solid runner and decent pass catcher
Washington over Ozougwu, cheta did play better but aside from his speed rush lacks pass rush moves and is strictly a pass rush specialist, washington has the power to hold up against the run and rush the passer as his moves become more refined.
webb over britton/scott, as sad as it is, webb will win this battle, scott just cant seem to stay healthy and so webb is the best option as a swing tackle, britton was horrible as a LT.
costanzo/thomas - agree with op its costonzo's job to lose

the real battles imo are
anderson/tolliver - anderson in the lead
fiametta/unga - fiametta in the lead
wilson/hurst - wilson takes it unless he has poor showing
palmer/edwards - think they go with palmer to develop unless he is just flat out terrible

yes yes yes... spot on...
 

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I know everyone is really high on our Draft class this year, and rightfully so. But most of these guys would still clear waivers.

I'm not sure if any of these guys, except Long and maybe Bostic wouldn't clear waivers. And it has nothing to do with their talent, or potential talent.
It has a lot more to do with bringing in a guy and guaranteeing him a spot on the 53 man roster for the remainder of the season, that hasn't been with the team at all ... missed all of the OTA's, and Training camp and hasn't played a single down in a regular season game before.

These guys are unproven rookies ... even if they have a ton of potential.

Nah.............. some of us are just Really High........

Washington will be immediately "poached" if we try and stash him on our PS. Will not clear waivers. Outside of grabbing his knee and flopping during Thursday's final PS game ("Red Shirting") if we are serious about developing him as a player....he will have to be on the 53....but where to make room for him...?!
 

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Nah.............. some of us are just Really High........

This really would explain quite a lot. :D

Washington will be immediately "poached" if we try and stash him on our PS. Will not clear waivers. Outside of grabbing his knee and flopping during Thursday's final PS game ("Red Shirting") if we are serious about developing him as a player....he will have to be on the 53....but where to make room for him...?!

You must have seen a whole lot more from him in these three games than I have.
 

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Scott / Britton / Webb Webb - too close to call, especially with Scott close to playing (Scott sat out of practice Wed, doesn't look like he'll play). A few weeks back Trestman said Britton had earned a spot on the 53. But considering Webb's overall 2012 campaign was decent, he's a swing tackle, the youngest and cheapest, I think he leads in theory. But Emery/coaches don't seem happy with Webb as a person. Britton could have swiped it from Webb last week, but Britton's been struggling (from what I hear). If Scott played by far the best tackle tomorrow, he'd likely win, but I don't even know if he's healthy enough to play. Emery/Trest aren't wasting time on injured players. I think Webb will outplay Britton on thurs day and win. But if Britton plays as well, I think it will be Britton.

Anderson / Toliver Anderson - we're interpreting what Cutler said as meaning Wilson already had a lock. I wouldn't assume that's what it means. Still, despite Anderson's lack of WR play last week, I still think he's a leading WR

Adams / Onobun Onobun - I think he has a good game thurs and wins a spot. But Adams is leading now. And Onobun is probably a lock for PS if he drops another ball thurs.

Whiteside / Minter Minter - I don't think either has shown a lot. Irvin has probably played better than both, but still not a lot, and Irvin is injured & sat out Wed practice; tough break for him, I think he would have won the spot had he not gotten injured. There's interest in Minter's ceiling. If Irvin somehow plays great Thurs he could nail 4th DT, & send Minter to PS.

Ford / Allen Ford - in what area can Allen beat him?

Costanzo / JT Thomas Costanzo - Thomas has a chance, due to youth and draft status.

Ozougwu / Washington Washington - cheta may have been leading, but last game Washington showed his worth, and cheta has disappeared. I think having Peppers, Wootton and Shea looking good allows the Bears to keep Washington as a semi-development possession.

Palmer / Edwards neither - I think bears go 2 QB and pick up the best waive PS eligible QB they can get for the PS.

C.J. Wilson / Hurst neither - Hurst was leading, but Wilson has made a leap in play. I think they are battling for the PS. I think Bears go 5 CB (tillman, jennings, bowman, frey, mcmannis)

Fiametta / Unga Fiametta - Unga would have won had he not gotten injured, because he's a bad ass offensive FB weapon. If Unga can play good run blocking this last preseason game, he could win it; but I don't think he's healthy enough to play. I think Unga has shown Trestman enough for Unga to make the PS again. They may bring Unga up to replace Fiametta during the year (due to injury or play).
 

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Is it worth the risk to let him try?

I would release Ozougwu before Washington if the plan is to sneak one onto the practice squad.
 

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I disagree that Minter has not shown well. Minter has showed strength and quickness. I think he makes the 53.
 

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So who got the job done?

Scott / Britton / Webb
Didn't even see Britton or Scott out there. (There was Britton at the end, so I guess he wasn't injured)
I guess this was Webb's spot to win or lose.
Welcome to the team Britton ... or Scott.

Anderson / Toliver
Anderson looks the part. 4 catches on 4 targets for 65 yards and a TD.
I don't think Toliver or Lenz make the team. Maybe one of them on the PS.

Adams / Onobun
Onobun lost it. The tip for a touchdown sealed it for me.

Here's the question I keep coming back to. If Adams is so much better at catching passes, then why don't they throw to him nearly as often?
Onobun has looked as good blocking as Adams I think. You'd think Adams would win the spot by default at this point, but if he's not really a pass catcher either and Onobun is just as good a blocker, then would they take a shot with Onobun at this point? I guess we'll see.

Whiteside / Minter
Just not seeing it from Minter. Yes, I see the Motor, and the Potential, and the effort, but it's so uncontrolled right now, I'd rather he was on the PS for now.

Ford / Allen
Toughest decision to make. Both looked really good. But Ford did nothing to change my mind that he should get the spot.

Costanzo / JT Thomas
Great sack for Thomas, and he did well on ST as well, but I don't think it will be enough.

Ozougwu / Washington
Not seeing it from Washington yet either. Maybe they take the chance, but I'd just as soon see him on the PS right now.

Palmer / Edwards
Palmer looked better out there, but so did the team around him.

C.J. Wilson / Hurst
Hurst really helped himself out in this game.
I thought Wilson had outplayed him to this point, but despite a few mistakes from him, Hurst really played well tonight.
Maybe even well enough to win the spot.

Fiametta / Unga
If I was sure Unga could block even reasonably well, I'd take him over Fiametta. He's been okay as a blocker, but I would want to see more to be sure.
Unga's more versatile, but I don't think that will matter if what they want is a quality blocking Fullback.
 

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