Pre snap reads: Trubisky analysis

[WindyCity]

Mitchell Trubisky Has No Middle Ground

By trading for Khalil Mack, the Chicago Bears essentially locked themselves into Mitchell Trubisky as their starting quarterback until 2021. Mack not only sapped the team’s cap space with his…

presnapreads.com

I actually think this is the analysis that hits the Trubisky analysis on the head.

Synopsis:

His good moments are great/special

His bad moments are brutal

There was little in between last season

In 2019 he will either be bad or one of the elite QBs in the league depending on which way it breaks.

 

[WindyCity]

It is really worth a read. He is very fair about including the special throws he makes and the impressive stuff he does on the move.

I never feel like PFF gives him credit for the impressive moments.

 

[Bearly]

Mitchell Trubisky Has No Middle Ground

By trading for Khalil Mack, the Chicago Bears essentially locked themselves into Mitchell Trubisky as their starting quarterback until 2021. Mack not only sapped the team’s cap space with his…

presnapreads.com

I actually think this is the analysis that hits the Trubisky analysis on the head.

Synopsis:

His good moments are great/special

His bad moments are brutal

There was little in between last season

In 2019 he will either be bad or one of the elite QBs in the league depending on which way it breaks.

Considering the length of his overall QB career and it being his 2nd year in a new O after an offseason to break things down, the odds are actually in is favor.

 

[Visionman]

Most of that is easy to attribute to his first season in a complicated NFL offense. We knew he was raw coming in, so it shouldnt be surprising to anyone.

Does it mean he is definitely going to put it all together? No, but I think the chances are much better he does than he doesn't, based on what weve seen so far...

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Thanks for the great read @WindyCity. It’s interesting to see he indeed does have a very good arm, something that is for some reason highly contentious here. I don’t know if I agree that he regressed overall though. He got a lot better in his second season at a lot of things that he struggled with in his rookie season. Pocket presence immediately jumps out and so does leadership and command of the offense. He definitely needs to clean up that footwork that leads to those “WTF was that” throws that happened way too much this season.

 

[pinkfloydster]

Mitchell Trubisky Has No Middle Ground

By trading for Khalil Mack, the Chicago Bears essentially locked themselves into Mitchell Trubisky as their starting quarterback until 2021. Mack not only sapped the team’s cap space with his…

presnapreads.com

I actually think this is the analysis that hits the Trubisky analysis on the head.

Synopsis:

His good moments are great/special

His bad moments are brutal

There was little in between last season

In 2019 he will either be bad or one of the elite QBs in the league depending on which way it breaks.

Great article. Thanks for posting it.

 

[DrGonzo]

Inconsistency is common among players who are talented but inexperienced. The worst example would be Cutler, who never grew out of having extremes of brilliance and horribleness. But everyone says Trubisky is coachable, and that is reason to hope the horrible moments will occur less and less next year.

I doubt they'll ever go away completely but I can live with 90%.

 

[Les Grossman]

Well it’s a pretty safe bet that Trubisky isn’t great or rather he likely won’t be great. Great players just have it naturally, they don’t usually take years to develop.

Maybe he turns out as good though.

 

[xer0h0ur]

Well it’s a pretty safe bet that Trubisky isn’t great or rather he likely won’t be great. Great players just have it naturally, they don’t usually take years to develop.

Maybe he turns out as good though.

Huh? Exactly how many quarterbacks were great straight out the gate? This sounds like a classic case of revisionist history to me.

 

[Penny Traitor]

Exactly how many quarterbacks were great straight out the gate?

What?

Like recently?

Did you catch the team in Kansas City this past season?

 

[Les Grossman]

Huh? Exactly how many quarterbacks were great straight out the gate? This sounds like a classic case of revisionist history to me.

Rodgers was damn good his first two years starting. Peyton Manning was obviously. Mahomes obviously at this this point. Russell Wilson was a stud from the get go.

FTR, the first year is always a learning year, but the second year QBs look the part.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Rodgers was damn good his first two years starting. Peyton Manning was obviously. Mahomes obviously at this this point. Russell Wilson was a stud from the get go.

FTR, the first year is always a learning year, but the second year QBs look the part.

That’s more the third year but I agree with the rest.

 

[Enasic]

Brees and Brady took some time and they’re among the best of our generation. Manning and Rodgers on that list as well. But Rodgers sat forever and had plenty of time to study behind Favre. Manning was a super talent but it took him some time to really become Peyton. Also, there have been numerous QBs who have started out great, and looked like they were going to be the 2nd coming, who later fizzled completely or just became middle of the pack. The QB trajectory is among the hardest to predict in all of sports.

 

[rogokin]

Good find thank you. That throw against the lions inbetween the two defenders to Robinson is my favorite.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Brees and Brady took some time and they’re among the best of our generation. Manning and Rodgers on that list as well. But Rodgers sat forever and had plenty of time to study behind Favre. Manning was a super talent but it took him some time to really become Peyton. Also, there have been numerous QBs who have started out great, and looked like they were going to be the 2nd coming, who later fizzled completely or just became middle of the pack. The QB trajectory is among the hardest to predict in all of sports.

My problem is that consistency seems to be the issue with Mitch. Clearly he has the talent. I can’t seem to think of any QBs that “grew out of” consistency issues as they developed off the top of my head which is concerning.

 

[Bearin' Down]

Rodgers was damn good his first two years starting. Peyton Manning was obviously. Mahomes obviously at this this point. Russell Wilson was a stud from the get go.

FTR, the first year is always a learning year, but the second year QBs look the part.

This is insanely misleading. Rodgers didn't start until his fourth year in the league and his third year in a system.

Manning didn't have a 2:1 td to int ratio until his third season, despite have Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, and Marshall Fault. He also set the all time rookie record for interceptions in a season, which still stands. Having said that, one of Manning's strengths has always been his football knowledge.

Mahomes was undeniably good in his second year. However that was his second season in a system. Like Nagy said to start last season, it would be unfair to compare the two based on last year's play. (And nevermind that Mahomes couldn't beat out Alex Smith).

Russell Wilson was asked not to lose games. He was able to make big plays with his legs and play action. Even today, he's not a top 5 QB.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

This is insanely misleading. Rodgers didn't start until his fourth year in the league and his third year in a system.

Manning didn't have a 2:1 td to int ratio until his third season, despite have Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, and Marshall Fault. He also set the all time rookie record for interceptions in a season, which still stands. Having said that, one of Manning's strengths has always been his football knowledge.

Mahomes was undeniably good in his second year. However that was his second season in a system. Like Nagy said to start last season, it would be unfair to compare the two based on last year's play. (And nevermind that Mahomes couldn't beat out Alex Smith).

Russell Wilson was asked not to lose games. He was able to make big plays with his legs and play action. Even today, he's not a top 5 QB.

Agree with everything except the notion that Wilson isn’t top 5. He’s easily top 5 IMO

 

[Bearin' Down]

Agree with everything except the notion that Wilson isn’t top 5. He’s easily top 5 IMO

I'm going to disagree. Which of these do you have him above Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Mahomes, Roethlisberger, Watson, Luck, Rivers, Wentz, Ryan, Newton?

I personally say he's behind Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Mahomes, Roethlisberger, Luck, Ryan, and a healthy Newton

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

I have him above above everybody after Mahomes @Bearin' Down

 

[Les Grossman]

This is insanely misleading. Rodgers didn't start until his fourth year in the league and his third year in a system.

Manning didn't have a 2:1 td to int ratio until his third season, despite have Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, and Marshall Fault. He also set the all time rookie record for interceptions in a season, which still stands. Having said that, one of Manning's strengths has always been his football knowledge.

Mahomes was undeniably good in his second year. However that was his second season in a system. Like Nagy said to start last season, it would be unfair to compare the two based on last year's play. (And nevermind that Mahomes couldn't beat out Alex Smith).

Russell Wilson was asked not to lose games. He was able to make big plays with his legs and play action. Even today, he's not a top 5 QB.

You can’t very well know how good or not good Rodgers would have been had he started as a rookie. What we do know is that when he DID start, he was a fucking stud from the get go.

And if everyone really believes that Rodgers is so good because he sat on the bench for a few years, then don’t you think we’d be seeing that throughout the league?? Lol

Also, Wilson is easily a top 5 QB. Who cares what he was asked to do, you can’t hold that against him. He delivered (Except for that SB pass lol).

Also speaking of misleading, lol at you diminishing Manning’s second season by cherry picking his TD:INT ratio. Take a better look at those other stats... manning had a rough first year, that’s it. He took off after that.