Shark to San Fran

[FrankieLyrical]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/12/giants-to-sign-jeff-samardzija.html

 

[JZsportsfan]

Cubs offered same AAV, but less years

 

[85Bears]

I'm ok with this.

 

[brett05]

Cubs offered same AAV, but less years

Link?

 

[TL1961]

Apparently didn't want that last $10 million.

 

[TL1961]

Link?

Everywhere

 

[TL1961]

Breaking news: Shark has informed SF he feels underpaid, and looks forward to free agency in 2021.

 

[chibears55]

So for an extra 2 mil a year, they could of had a lot younger starter for 3 more years... SMH
Me think it was more of reuniting a familiar trio of Lester Ross and Lackey then anything else..

 

[jooo83]

So for an extra 2 mil a year, they could of had a lot younger starter for 3 more years... SMH
Me think it was more of reuniting a familiar trio of Lester Ross and Lackey then anything else..

I understand where you are coming from (I have issues with this offseason thus far but am withholding judgement because it is still early) but is Jeff Samardzija really a better pitcher than Lackey? Is he a difference maker at all that legitimately gets you closer to a WS? If not, I'm not going to sweat not signing him. But I admit I've never been a big Samardzija fan so I'm a little biased ha. What I do know, and I think most will agree, is that this team needs one more quality pitcher.

 

[JZsportsfan]

So for an extra 2 mil a year, they could of had a lot younger starter for 3 more years... SMH
Me think it was more of reuniting a familiar trio of Lester Ross and Lackey then anything else..

The Cubs know Samardzija better than anybody else. Perhaps the fact that they weren't willing to go the extra years on him is telling. Cubs offered him $18m AAV but wouldn't go to 5 years. I'm assuming it was only 3, but could have very well been 4.

 

[JZsportsfan]

Link?

A lot of places

Bruce Levine was the 1st I saw

 

[chibears55]

I understand where you are coming from (I have issues with this offseason thus far but am withholding judgement because it is still early) but is Jeff Samardzija really a better pitcher than Lackey? Is he a difference maker at all that legitimately gets you closer to a WS? If not, I'm not going to sweat not signing him. But I admit I've never been a big Samardzija fan so I'm a little biased ha. What I do know, and I think most will agree, is that this team needs one more quality pitcher.

I dont think there much of a difference between the two
Who knows what left in Lackey tank at 37, last year was a career year for him and crazy year for the whole team if you think about it..

The Cubs know Samardzija better than anybody else. Perhaps the fact that they weren't willing to go the extra years on him is telling. Cubs offered him $18m AAV but wouldn't go to 5 years. I'm assuming it was only 3, but could have very well been 4.

Im guessing when they had their conversation, Epstein probably just gave Samardzija the option to return on a 1 or 2 year option deal to gain value if teams were showing little interest in paying him this year..


Interesting after 2 yrs from turning down Cubs offer of 5/85 , he only increased his value by 5 mil overall. ..

 

[CSF77]

STL didn't get him. Also Cueto and the Cards had issues.

Cards may not get better while losing Lackey and Hayward

 

[CSF77]

1st year was 9 mil then 18 per for 4. Not a bad deal. But I feel it had more to do with extending Jake and the conflict in dollars for those 4 years.

 

[czman]

I guess Shark did not suddenly find extra money after the other guys signed. This is just about what most thought he would get coming in.

 

[Shawon0Meter]

Would've had no problem with the Cubs giving out that contract to Shark. Not the end of the world though

 

[TL1961]

So for an extra 2 mil a year, they could of had a lot younger starter for 3 more years... SMH
Me think it was more of reuniting a familiar trio of Lester Ross and Lackey then anything else..

Or going with a guy they can actually count on.

 

[TL1961]

I guess Shark did not suddenly find extra money after the other guys signed. This is just about what most thought he would get coming in.

It's $10 million less than he claimed was on the table.

 

[chibears55]

Or going with a guy they can actually count on.

He 37, more of a chance for him to gas out then Samardzija

So, we really don't know how much we can count on from him


Remember he lost some velocity last year..
he at that age now where he going to lose stuff faster

 

[DanTown]

Lackey makes more sense for this organization than Jeff did. They're probably going to be similar pitchers yet the Cubs get Lackey for 3 years less and 58 million less. There was very little reason to give Jeff that deal.

Lackey holds of declining: Theo looks great
Lackey declines quickly: Cubs were cheap and it cost them

The Cubs obviously have only so many long term contracts to give out so who else gets them matters.