The Bears Running Game and Mitch Trubisky

[modo]

More reading comprehension problems on your part. Never said you lived in Chitown. It's where your BF plays football...poorly and I merely suggested you leave with him...so, you know, you could still be with the one you love and have him fuck up a different team.

you are fucking hopeless

 

[modo]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Nagy overhauled the playbook with whom ever the new OC is with a more undercenter play action style offense which can still focus on a dynamic U TE if they draft or pickup a good FA TE. Similar to SF offense.

o-line functioned much better under a zone blocking scheme as well compared to this RPO style.

Yes they need to diversify. They don't have the firepower on the oline to do what they wanted this year.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

you are fucking hopeless

Says you, girl.

 

[kerrywoodwins20]

Isn't that most teams game plan? Stop the run and make Trubisky have to throw to beat them.

Of course the Chiefs and Texans have higher rushing averages. Defenses game plan for Mahomes and Watson beating them in the passing game.

They’re playing dime packages. They’re not game planning to stop the run. They’re realizing that they can put dime packages out there and still stop the run.

The truth is they’re game planning to stop Trubisky and they stop the running game because it is easy to stop this running game.

 

[WindyCity]

Nice research.

We know pretty definitively that Trubisky is a personnel dependent QB. The running game is a big part of that.

 

[WindyCity]

Isn't that most teams game plan? Stop the run and make Trubisky have to throw to beat them.

Of course the Chiefs and Texans have higher rushing averages. Defenses game plan for Mahomes and Watson beating them in the passing game.

Teams did not actually do this. They played nickel because they knew our line couldn't move anyone.

 

[Neckbeard]

Nice research.

We know pretty definitively that Trubisky is a personnel dependent QB. The running game is a big part of that.

I wonder how many NFL QBs can actually thrive with awful run games. Maybe 5?

 

[modo]

Nice research.

We know pretty definitively that Trubisky is a personnel dependent QB. The running game is a big part of that.

Trubisky is rarely going to win you games single-handedly...he needs a running game to be effective.

 

[modo]

I wonder how many NFL QBs can actually thrive with awful run games. Maybe 5?

right, so wouldn't it stand to reason you should be improving the running game as a top priority so he can thrive.

 

[modo]

There are only two teams not in the top 16 rushing teams in the league that made the playoffs.

It stands to reason that rushing the ball is pretty important.

It is really hard to ask an offense to succeed when they can't run the ball. You need an extra special QB to do that, and that isn't Trubisky.

 

[ChiKhan]

I mean the two games Monty ran for 100 Mitch was average at best. It doesn't mean Mitch all of the sudden turns into a pretty good QB it just means the defense and running game can carry him. Hell they ran for 100 and held the chargers to 17 and Mitch still couldn't pull away against the chargers. He's a below average QB and that's being nice.

 

[modo]

I mean the two games Monty ran for 100 Mitch was average at best. It doesn't mean Mitch all of the sudden turns into a pretty good QB it just means the defense and running game can carry him.

If the running game and defense were carrying him his statistics would be similar across the board no matter if there was a running game or not. The defense doesn't affect the ypc on the offense.

Mitch is a better QB when the Bears can run the ball. Its pretty black and white.....taking a two game sample is pointless. Its about the body of work.

 

[ChiKhan]

If the bears can run the ball really well and if their defense becomes top 5 next year they can win ball games and make the playoffs no doubt. But they will be winning in spite of Mitch and him being a below average QB will cost them in the playoffs.

 

[modo]

If the bears can run the ball really well and if their defense becomes top 5 next year they can win ball games and make the playoffs no doubt. But they will be winning in spite of Mitch and him being a below average QB will cost them in the playoffs.

They don't need to run the ball pretty well, they just need to run it good enough like every other playoff team. It isn't a secret formula.

We all know Trubisky needs to get better.

 

[modo]

The Bears lacked a lot of what other playoff teams have. Turnovers and a running game. Many people seemed to blame Trubisky for not making the playoffs despite the lack of other things that most of the other playoff teams have.

Very sort sighted and a lazy way to assess this team.

 

[Briggs is GOAT]

Great finds Modo.

Let's hope they hit the line hard this offseason and get an OC who can implement an effective run game.

If they do that and Trubisky is still sub-standard, then you have to get rid of him.

 

[jooo83]

Of course the bears would be more effective with a better running game. That's probaby true of any team. But a lot of the discussion in this thread equates to nothing more than excuses for Mitch. He is bad at reading defenses, processing information quickly and making pre and post snap adjustments, literally doesn't see open receivers too often, and struggles with accuracy. When you struggle in those areas, you can't effectively run the offense that Nagy employs. No doubt the Bears need a better running game. But better QB play is the far bigger issue. Now if Nagy significantly changes the offense that may be a different story...

 

[modo]

Of course the bears would be more effective with a better running game. That's probaby true of any team. But a lot of the discussion in this thread equates to nothing more than excuses for Mitch. He is bad at reading defenses, processing information quickly and making pre and post snap adjustments, literally doesn't see open receivers too often, and struggles with accuracy. When you struggle in those areas, you can't effectively run the offense that Nagy employs. No doubt the Bears need a better running game. But better QB play is the far bigger issue. Now if Nagy significantly changes the offense that may be a different story...

Actually he improved at reading defenses as the year went on if you are to believe Nagy.

They seem to think he is still improving and so do I. I think it is slower than expected and he won't be an elite QB, but I think with a running game and more experience he can get them to the playoffs...

This year was hard because Mitch didn't have the team support that other playoffs teams have, running and TOs. These are just facts. Whether Trubisky will turn out to be a good consistent QB has yet to be determined, but asking him to make the playoffs with no help from a running game and TOs is not fair. Every playoff team is better in both those categories than the Bears.

 

[Mr. Jones]

The Bears had a 23% decline rushing yards from last year and about a 10% decline in passing yards.

Last year the RBs accounted for 1,415 for a 3.83 average

This year the RBs accounted for 1,127 yards for a 3.55 average

conclusion:



...............GET A FUCKING RUNNING GAME.........

This offense is asking Mitch to do everything.......

I agree, Last year the total run attempts were 468 for a 4.1 average for 1938 yds, this year the numbers were indeed down at 395 attempts for a 3.7 avg for 1458 yds. If Nagy would have put more priority on running more it would have helped Trubisky and the offense and it may have been able to pull out a few more wins to be a wild card team.. I hope he realizes now that he doesn't have a QB that can carry his offense and needs help from a better running attack..