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Seriously!!
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Insert facepalm.
Watson is an elite player. Trubisky is a bum. No it wouldn't have been the same.
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The Houston Texans have gone to the playoffs 4/7 years. They are a very stable organization
The Houston Texans habs a top 7 defense and a top 7 rushing attack. What don’t you understand about this?
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What makes him “elite”. What’s his playoff record and stats? He’s has not increased the Teams win percentage at all and dude was a bum in his playoff appearance
Houston will finish 9-7 this year just like almost every year before Watson showed up. What has he really done on a team that did the same before he showed up? Elite players elevate their franchise and Watons hasn’t done that yet. So save that elite non sense for someone who doesn’t know football
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The best way to defend your bad qb is pretend that every other QB would suck in the same situation.
people should be more like you and cry about officiating and that people are too critical of Mitchell!
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Tonight, but against the saddest Patriot offense we have seen in forever. Overall, they have been pretty mediocre the last two seasons also known as 2/3rd of Watson's career.
You are correct we will never know, but anyone that knows anything about football can make a pretty good guess that Watson could replicate similar results on a team with just about the same level of talent on offense.
But for sure...we will never know.
Meh.
There's a lot more science to drafting than a game at a casino, especially if you put the work in. Pace went all in on his guy and I gave him credit for that on Draft Night despite the completely preposterous trade above himself and the pick not being Watson. It's nights like these I get to vent the frustration of what a terrible failure that draft night was on a random sports message board while "my guy" is making Tom Brady seriously think it's time to ride off into the sunset.
Sorry if that offended anyone.
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I'll take body of work (81 total tds in 34 starts compared to Trubisky's 50 in 37 starts) over one game when judging how good a QB is.
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Not offended at all
Your first 2 points are well taken
As for #3..No matter how much research is done for drafting purposes, the leap to the NFL is so big, that it basically amounts to a crap shoot..That accounts for guys taken in later rounds that shine, and guys taken in early rounds busting out
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They're good, but not nearly as good as their numbers indicate. They've played almost nobody until now. They're in one of the worst divisions in the NFL, and played against the other two worst in the AFC North (Bengals, Browns, Steelers) and NFC East, where the Cowboys, at 6-6, lead that division...
So yeah, not the most impressive resume I've ever seen.
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Not arguing against Watson because I wanted him here too and think that was a HUGE mistake, but if being better than Mitch is your criteria for being elite, then you of all people are saying Jay was elite. As well as a TON of other QBs.
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It isn't my criteria for him being elite. His own play and body of work is. I just think it's laughable to claim that he wouldn't be doing any better than Trubisky in Chicago.
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I’m not defending Trubs. I’m calling you ridiculous for calling Watson elite.
Here is the Texans record before Watson showed up
2012 12-4
2013 2-14
2014 9-7
2015 9-7
2016 9-7
There was clear consistency in getting to the playoffs BEFORE Watson showed up. Don’t call him “elite” until he actually gets his team over a hump they couldn’t achieve without him. Right now he’s just another Mathew Stafford type that puts up big numbers when it doesn’t matter. Dude ain’t elite and he choked when it counted most. At least Mitch put his team in a position to win in the playoffs. The playoffs were too big for Watson.
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By that logic we should have kept cody parkey. There have been a lot of kickers that have missed game winning fgs.
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Another facepalm.
Body of work. He's elite. But reduce everything to one game if it makes you feel better.
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I agree I can’t imagine him being the same or worse than Trubs here. It is the Bears though and we are QB cursed so who knows.
I do hate the elite moniker being thrown around though, in my mind even Mahomes isn’t elite...yet. Not likely, but if he gets hurt or suddenly has the QB version of the yips, he might be a what could have been instead of a sure HOFer.
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Yes, the Texans had one of the worst olines Watson’s first two years & he still balled.
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Whats his body of work though because it’s not increasing his teams wining percentage by much.
If you want to call someone elite with a pathetic playoff performer go ahead but I care about wins and championship. You can keep those regular season empty calories.
How many points would Watson have put up on this team last year in the playoffs? He couldn’t put up 7 against the colts so what do you think he would do here with worst offensive talent? 3 ??? Maybe 6???
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Different team...Different coaches...Different F/O...Different scheme
It's a long shot to assume he would be a star in Chicago..Not saying he wouldn't be, but to assume he would because he is successful so far in Houston is a stretch..
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That's fair. They do need to do it over a longer time to solidify anything. The respective first three years of the three 2017 QBs though ... ouch.
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Lol at comparing him to Matthew Stafford.
Meanwhile Watson just had a 4 TD marquee win vs the Patriots, while we’re giving Earmuff Mitch gold stars for beating one of the worst defenses in the league. A team that hasn’t won a division title in like 25 years.
Mitch was never going to be Watson, regardless of the team he landed on. Watson is a guy you win because of. Mitch is a guy you have to drag to wins.
Meanwhile Watson just had a 4 TD marquee win vs the Patriots, while we’re giving Earmuff Mitch gold stars for beating one of the worst defenses in the league. A team that hasn’t won a division title in like 25 years.
Mitch was never going to be Watson, regardless of the team he landed on. Watson is a guy you win because of. Mitch is a guy you have to drag to wins.
