What do we need to do to get the most out of Mitch?

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Lets suspend for a second that he is a total bust.

What do the Bears need to do scheme wise and personnel wise to get the most out of Mitch in 2020, because we know he will be on the team. Even if the Bears sign a veteran QB, they are going to have limitations that need to be supported?
 

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Run The Ball: Mitch clearly is not a carry the team QB, but when the Bears run the ball and can do a little play action he seems to settle down and make some plays. A strong run game has always been the basis of winning with a limited QB.

Scheme

-More diverse run sets, which includes the I formation, and less of the RPO over and over again.
-More commitment to the run
-More designed QB runs

Personnel

-They need some ass kickers on the OL, they are soft at LT, and athletically limited at RT.
-They need significantly better TE play to run the ball
-They should add a straight line bruising RB for times when Montgomery needs a blow and they need 1 yard.

Screens: the Bears are a miserable screen team and that makes life more difficult for your QB. Screens are like stealing yards and they get in the head of DCs and pass rushers.

Scheme

-Set them up better, it seems like we run screens at the most obvious times and with the most obvious personnel.
-Call them more consistently, once a quarter to stay in the head of the DCs and pass rushers
-Call them to more diverse personnel, remember 3-4 weeks ago when we ran a nice middle screen to Holtz and then never ran it again?

Personnel

-Better OLmen, screen seem like they would be easy for the OL, but they require you a certain level of athletic ability and ability to move people in space

Protection: Mitch's pocket presence is not where it needs to be. In fact it has regressed a lot this season, but we saw against Detroit that when he gets protected and he is not rushing he can make some throws and make some reads. No QBs like pressure, but some do better with it then others.

Scheme

-Play action, Mitch needs to improve in his play action, but nothing slows down a rush more especially if you no longer suck at running the ball.
-Big personnel, have the extra tackle on the field and ensure a strong physical pocket. Having the extra OT allows you to double in other areas across the line.
-Better one on one matchups, which means less Bobbie Massie 1 on 1 with Bosa.
-More protectors might take people out of the routes, but Mitch is not making 3-4 reads so do not send an extra guy out, protect so he can make 2 reads.

Personnel

-The Bears need to move from a competent OL to a dominant OL and that means you need to upgrade and have better competition.
-Leno and Massie are too often bull rushed into the pocket
-Daniels has struggled in 1 on 1
-The entire line has struggled with stunts and blitzs, which should get better with Whitehair at C.

Size Running Routes: we know he is not accurate and we know that he struggles to find the smaller guys on the field and when he was really showing something last year that the TE was one of his first 2 reads.

Personnel

-Play Wims more
-Find a real TE that can be the 2nd read on plays
-Stop running 5'6" or 5'8" guys down the field.
 

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QB's best friend is an oline and a running game. Also, make the position more dynamic to match his skills...so move the pocket, add rollouts and designed runs. He's not Peyton Manning so don't make him strictly a pocket passer. Couple of nice TEs would really help also.
 

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No more 50+ passing attempts. Mitch needs play-action plays and designed roll outs.
I agree 25 seems like a good number to average.

If they do want to make a last stand with Mitch I think we have to have

1. A legit TE
2. 2 Personnel Upgrades on the OL, pick 2 of LT, RG, RT
3. Less midget line ups, which I think we have the WRs to do.
 

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1. Roll Trubisky out a few times per game
2. Give Trubisky the green light to run
3. Hand the ball to Montgomery 20 times per game, 10 of which need to be in the first half
4. Balance
5. Slants
6. Stop doing stupid gimmicky shit
7. Stop running Tarik Cohen up the middle
8. Take snaps that are under center sometimes
9. Don't always run when we bring in an extra blocker
10. Wims doesn't suck, he needs to play more often
11. Cut Shaheen and Burton, we're getting a real tight end
12. Draft offensive linemen
13. Force Trubisky to step up in the pocket, and then always step into his throws
14. Teach Trubisky how to throw the ball away
15. Stop calling plays where 3 receivers end up in the same spot
16. This team as a whole needs to get fucking physical
17. The playcalling and gameplan need to be constantly adjusted throughout the game, this is chess, play it
18. If Trubisky is struggling, an honest effort needs to be made to get him going (again)
19. Run the fucking ball
20. Play action only works when you run the fucking ball, deep looks downfield only work when you run the fucking ball
21. Run the fucking ball
 

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If you could upgrade the talent around him which would be the top 3 spots

1. TE, we get nothing from them in run and pass
2. OT, they are not bad, but a long way from dominant which is what we need to work towards
3. OG, we need some ass kickers inside.
 

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If you could upgrade the talent around him which would be the top 3 spots

1. TE, we get nothing from them in run and pass
2. OT, they are not bad, but a long way from dominant which is what we need to work towards
3. OG, we need some ass kickers inside.
1. Agree
2. Leno is BAD.. at least this season..
 

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At this point, maximizing Mitch is about minimizing his touch on the game. You go run heavy, and simplify the pass game while working in openings for your mobile QB to use his legs. AKA you become the 2018 Titans. To be fair to the Titans seasons, they lost their starting TE early and would probably have been a bit better with him (strong TE play is a big part of helping average or below QBs). I think that if the offense could just take a step up to 2018 Titans level it would be a 10-11 win team. But realistically, you aren't fixing your QB problem you are just masking it, but at least you don't have big money handicuffing you at the position.
 

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I posted this in another thread


The Bears need to make some moves, but not with Trubisky..YET!

1...Get a power running back. A Jerome Bettis kind.. Montgomery just aint cutting it IMHO.. And that will take pressure off Trubisky
2...Get a bonafied punt return man..Cohen is consistently putting the Bears in a hole by fair catching balls inside the 10 and even the 5
3...Replace Fuller at CB..He plays too far off the ball
4...Find someone else to call the plays

If they do those 4 things, the team will improve dramatically...

And if after all that Trubisky is still in a funk, then dump his ass
 

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I posted this in another thread


The Bears need to make some moves, but not with Trubisky..YET!

1...Get a power running back. A Jerome Bettis kind.. Montgomery just aint cutting it IMHO.. And that will take pressure off Trubisky
2...Get a bonafied punt return man..Cohen is consistently putting the Bears in a hole by fair catching balls inside the 10 and even the 5
3...Replace Fuller at CB..He plays too far off the ball
4...Find someone else to call the plays

If they do those 4 things, the team will improve dramatically...

And if after all that Trubisky is still in a funk, then dump his ass
Jerome Bettis type?

Is it 1995??
 

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The thought exercise was to suspend your thoughts that he is a total bust.
I'll have to go with what others have said. Limit Trubisky's throws. Run more...etc.

But Nagy isn't going to do that stuff. He's not going to focus on running and take shots passing when we can. We have a QB who cannot execute the new coach's scheme, and the coach isn't going to change it because "be you."
 
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