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  1. Bears offense first year of QB acquisition

    Should have been more clear - I was referring to within the time frame the OP appeared to be comparing: 2000 onward. I also specifically mentioned 2013 as the one year that would be, theoretically the best comp to how this team could potentially look. Marshall was #11 in receiving (Keenan...

  2. Bears offense first year of QB acquisition

    One thing is for sure though. The only Bears offense that comes close to how this one potentially could be is 2013-14. DJ Moore: #6 in receiving yards Keenan Allen: #11 in receiving yards Cole Kmet: top 10 in TE receiving Deandre Swift: #5 in rushing yards

  3. Bears offense first year of QB acquisition

    Woof. Bobby Wade, David Terrell, and Justin Gage giving me some PTSD, though Marty Booker wasn’t terrible. Grossman really only played with those guys for a couple games though. 2003 he played like 2-3 games IIRC. 2004 he only played like 1.5 games. 2005 he didn’t show up until Atlanta. So I’d...

  4. Ranking top situations for rookie QB's since 2000

    Including the 1-31 Browns on this list is absolutely idiotic - that’s literally the worst situation a rookie QB has ever entered. Much less the 9th best…. The only one that comes close to as bad would be Stafford in 2009.

  5. Be prepared for the Caleb should force a trade narrative.

    Good lord. This is all such obnoxious and exhausting bullshit.

  6. Caleb Williams.. Is he a prima donna?

    - Apparently this is his dad, Carl, not Caleb. - His people pushed back on the Cowherd stuff, several weeks before the combine, almost immediately. - Loads of top QBs don't throw at the combine - Burrow, Luck, Stafford, Murray, Young, etc. - What would be the point of doing medical tests for...

  7. Chris Simms is VERY high on Williams

    I'm not a Chris Simms fan, but this is idiotic. A mock draft isn't the same thing as who he thinks will be the best QB.

  8. Can anyone honestly look at the rosters of the 4 Championship teams that competed to be in the Super Bowl, and think we're only a Caleb Williams away?

    And the average QB didn't win did he? Average QBs don't win Super Bowls. You're the one claiming you want to win championships and not have a perennial one and done in the playoffs... Nearly every Super Bowl in the last three decades was won by a HOF QB or QB who will eventually be in the HOF...

  9. More than one way to skin a cat

    You may not need an elite QB to compete or make the playoffs, but you nearly always need one to win the Super Bowl. Nearly every Super Bowl in the last 30 years was won by a QB who was a Hall of Famer or likely will be. And not just that, the opposing QB in most cases is a HOF or will be. 2022...

  10. List of NUMBER 1 selected QBs in the last 40 years. How many would you say are busts??

    I'm leaning toward drafting Williams over Fields, but the reality is that a QB drafted 1.1 historically just isn't that great. At the end of the day, these dudes just don't really win super bowls. The only QB in the last three decades taken 1.1 to win a super bowl on the team that drafted him...

  11. Jesper Should Start

    The catch you’re referring to as the impetus for this post, Horsted literally doesn’t even move, much less aggressively go after the ball lol

  12. To QB or not to QB

    In the last ten or fifteen years it is almost the case that you don’t even play in a Super Bowl unless you’re a first or second round pick. The only exceptions to this obviously being Brady, Russell Wilson, Kurt Warner in 2008, Matt Hasselback in 2005, and Nick Foles (which excludes the fact...

  13. To QB or not to QB

    What is the logic of limiting it to 1-9? Seems pretty arbitrary and eliminates literally the last QB who won a Super Bowl in Mahomes, who was drafted 10, not to mention Roethlisberger who has 2 rings and was drafted at 11?

  14. The Future of The Bears

    Right, but this is based on the false premise that Foles targets Robinson less than Trubisky. This season Trubisky targeted Robinson on 29% of his throws. Foles targets him on 27%. As a percentage of his passes, getting Foles to 29% is 3 more targets to Robinson... Robinson also accounts for a...

  15. The Future of The Bears

    Making a long term decision on a 27 year old receiver, who is coincidentally the best player on the offense, based on how frequently a short term mediocrity like Nick Foles (who depending on the draft may not even start as early as next season and will likely be gone after 2022) has thrown to...

  16. Interesting breakdowns

    Just rewatched - they're on the 34 and Robinson breaks around the 47 or 48. Don't know if that proves anything one way or the other.
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