2021 Bottom Roster Guys Who Make it in 2022

[rawdawg]

LOL a 6'7 SAM would be a first, I'll give you that.

At Virgina under John Rudzinski the DC in 2020, he was a 'viper' edge rusher in a 3-4 and led the team in sacks.

Please stop the stupidity thinking one position can transition to another he's never played and is vastly different (and most times won't even be on the field in a 4-2-5).

We already have enough misguided idiots already think that with Trevis Gipson--and Snowden is buried compared to him. His best bet is DE depth and even then he probably isn't making the roster.

Hmm. I guess, 6'7" Hall of Fame LB, Ted Hendricks (who started his career as a SAM for the Baltimore Colts) didn't exist. And nobody is saying Snowden is going to play 900 snaps. I literally said he fits as a SAM in the 4-3 under defense (lines up on edge, to stop the run, chip or cover the TE, and can rush the passer). And I am the one that pointed out in another thread that the Colts only played their SAM LB on 18% of the snaps last year, and that included Darius Leonard missing a full game.

So to summarize:
Yes, there have been a 6'7" SAM LB, who also has played at the highest level possible.
DE in a 4-3 is also a vastly different position than what he has played, and 4-3 SAM (in an under front) is more up his alley.
Yes, I think he can play SAM in the 4-3 under based on his size and length and previous roles as a player. 4-3 under is a very specific formation among the base 4-3 defenses, which Eberflus doesn't play very much (if at all) anyway.
So No, I don't think he's going to play a bunch of snaps either way, because there will be a ton of nickel and he wouldn't be a starter anyway.
And I didn't pick him as a guy who "makes it" because I don't think he'll get the snaps that a Kamara has a chance to get.

 

[gallagher]

Hmm. I guess, 6'7" Hall of Fame LB, Ted Hendricks (who started his career as a SAM for the Baltimore Colts) didn't exist. And nobody is saying Snowden is going to play 900 snaps. I literally said he fits as a SAM in the 4-3 under defense (lines up on edge, to stop the run, chip or cover the TE, and can rush the passer). And I am the one that pointed out in another thread that the Colts only played their SAM LB on 18% of the snaps last year, and that included Darius Leonard missing a full game.

So to summarize:
Yes, there have been a 6'7" SAM LB, who also has played at the highest level possible.
DE in a 4-3 is also a vastly different position than what he has played, and 4-3 SAM (in an under front) is more up his alley.
Yes, I think he can play SAM in the 4-3 under based on his size and length and previous roles as a player. 4-3 under is a very specific formation among the base 4-3 defenses, which Eberflus doesn't play very much (if at all) anyway.
So No, I don't think he's going to play a bunch of snaps either way, because there will be a ton of nickel and he wouldn't be a starter anyway.
And I didn't pick him as a guy who "makes it" because I don't think he'll get the snaps that a Kamara has a chance to get.

I'll bet you that Snowden is on the roster longer than Kamara. Loser has to feel ashamed.

 

[Zvbxrpl]

Hmm. I guess, 6'7" Hall of Fame LB, Ted Hendricks (who started his career as a SAM for the Baltimore Colts) didn't exist. And nobody is saying Snowden is going to play 900 snaps. I literally said he fits as a SAM in the 4-3 under defense (lines up on edge, to stop the run, chip or cover the TE, and can rush the passer). And I am the one that pointed out in another thread that the Colts only played their SAM LB on 18% of the snaps last year, and that included Darius Leonard missing a full game.

So to summarize:
Yes, there have been a 6'7" SAM LB, who also has played at the highest level possible.
DE in a 4-3 is also a vastly different position than what he has played, and 4-3 SAM (in an under front) is more up his alley.
Yes, I think he can play SAM in the 4-3 under based on his size and length and previous roles as a player. 4-3 under is a very specific formation among the base 4-3 defenses, which Eberflus doesn't play very much (if at all) anyway.
So No, I don't think he's going to play a bunch of snaps either way, because there will be a ton of nickel and he wouldn't be a starter anyway.
And I didn't pick him as a guy who "makes it" because I don't think he'll get the snaps that a Kamara has a chance to get.

You went all the way back to 1969 to pull Ted Hendricks? Gold star, I guess. I stand corrected. How long did it take you to look that up?

I don’t think he can play Sam. I also don’t understand designating him as something he’s not in a scheme he’s not going to have a spot on, unless there’s injury or he beats out whoever’s below Gipson on the depth chart and it’s his turn in the rotation. That doesn’t really accomplish anything.

And it’s funny, the thread title is “guys who make it in 2022” but you finish it up saying “I didn’t pick him as a guy who makes it” after your initial post calling Snowden “a good choice” for a guy to make it in 2022 after guessing his collegiate position incorrectly.

Do me a favor. Pick a lane.

there is nothing to say that he cannot come in at LB and blitz, and come in at DE on an obvious passing down to round out the pass rush. I am not expecting him to have the snaps to produce the kind of stats that Anderson and Beasley did in a year (you know, after you compared him to one first round bust), but was saying that it is not impossible for him to have a good year at his size. All I said can round out our pass rush and hope to make 10 splash plays on defense and ST (which, for a UDFA, is a pretty big step forward in year 2...)

But hey, keep talking about what people cant do. I am here talking about what I hope a young man can do with the kind of hard work it takes to get into the league in the first place. I am fairly certain that that is the entire point of this thread.

Can he line up at LB and blitz or be in a goal Oline/4th down and short situation? Sure. We’ll leave aside what a competent qb can do when he identifies a 6’7 pass rusher is lined up alongside Roquan on D, before an inevitable hot route would get called. If Erin Rodgers identifies that and Der Flus doesn’t pop a timeout that’s a broken play waiting to happen.

I expect too much turnover to hold out on a guy presently on the roster/PS/under contract to have a shot at “making it.” A career 3-4 viper edge rusher and back up transitioning to a different scheme isn’t a recipe for success even if you’re infatuated with the athleticism. It wasn’t for the 1st round bust I brought up, or the one you did.

 

[mecha]

I liked how @TheWinman and @Leomaz disliked Omelet's post entirely on cue.

 

[Leomaz]

I liked how @TheWinman and @Leomaz disliked Omelet's post entirely on cue.

Which one? LOL

 

[legendxofxlink]

I truly believe, and this is scraping the bottom of the barrel, Eddie Jackson will make the roster next year.

 

[wazzupi]

Coming out swinging, huh.

I said pass rusher. Please stop overthinking and presuming he has to play DE. I also think he's going to make a difference on special teams. And that he'd round out the end of the pass rushers. You're quite the overreacting.

As for his size, Vic Beasley led the league in sacks and was light in the pants as a rookie. Mark Anderson was 250 and came off the bench for us to lead the team in sacks at 4-3 end. He can add muscle in the off-season. I really don't see the need to compare a first round bust who was supposed to be a starter to an UDFA who I think will likely never start.

Don’t give that Special person any attention

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Snowden's a good answer, but I'll go off the radar and say, Sam Kamara. He got a handful of snaps in about half the games last year with all the injuries. I think he wins the 4th DE job, where he's a better fit as a 4-3 DE than a 3-4 OLB, and he gives the Bears 4-5 sacks in 2022.

Yup

 

[pdxbearsfan]

We've got time to kill. Thomas Graham doesn't count because it was malpractice that he didn't see more time. You gotta pick seemingly insignificant players who are going to be starters in 2022. This thread is meant to be wild guesses.

I'll start. Bears resign Teez Tabor and he does well.

Since you mentioned T. Graham I'll give you 3 more who will come on and do well while getting playing time. Charles Snowden, Dazz Newsome and Caleb Johnson.

 

[pinkfloydster]

Snowden would probably be more of a SAM LB in the 4-3, unless they put some more weight on him. I think he was a SAM at UVA. He'd be a ideal for the 4-3 under that the Seahawks ran with Bruce Irvin at SAM (also really fits Quinn as a LEO) where he can use his length out on the edge and also potentially rush the passer or press the TE in coverage off the line.

Snowden's a good answer, but I'll go off the radar and say, Sam Kamara. He got a handful of snaps in about half the games last year with all the injuries. I think he wins the 4th DE job, where he's a better fit as a 4-3 DE than a 3-4 OLB, and he gives the Bears 4-5 sacks in 2022.

In very limited snaps, Kamara had a PFF score of 56. For comparison, Khyiris Tonga was 52, albeit with more snaps.

 

[rawdawg]

You went all the way back to 1969 to pull Ted Hendricks? Gold star, I guess. I stand corrected. How long did it take you to look that up?

I don’t think he can play Sam. I also don’t understand designating him as something he’s not in a scheme he’s not going to have a spot on, unless there’s injury or he beats out whoever’s below Gipson on the depth chart and it’s his turn in the rotation. That doesn’t really accomplish anything.

And it’s funny, the thread title is “guys who make it in 2022” but you finish it up saying “I didn’t pick him as a guy who makes it” after your initial post calling Snowden “a good choice” for a guy to make it in 2022 after guessing his collegiate position incorrectly.

Do me a favor. Pick a lane.

So, we both made incorrect guesses now didn't we? Do me a favor, get off my dick.

 

[TrapperKarl]

Its gonna be Ryan Nall's year as RB1.

 

[jonimus]

Kyle Orton

 

[Zvbxrpl]

So, we both made incorrect guesses now didn't we? Do me a favor, get off my dick.

Not really. Hendricks didn’t switch to Sam/lolb until the end of his career after being a will or Rolb and DE for the vast majority/specific situations like punts/kicks/short yard pass anticipations/whatever you’d need a giant for to use his size. That’s like calling former bear Corey Graham a ‘zone specialist’ when his best/majority years in Baltimore/Buffalo were man coverage, but he’s a corner so what’s the difference, right?

It baffles me how fans oft lack the 20 seconds of patience using google to verify simple information, instead just spout horseshit. You can literally find what positions he played in the top 3 links before 5 more seconds looking at rolb vs lolb tendencies in old time football.

Want me off your dick? Stop being an idiot, and have a fucking clue of what you’re talking about. I promise you, you’re allowed to use that brain of yours and it won’t hurt.

 

[dabears70]

Charles Snowden is going to take a big step forward and round out a dangerous pass rush unit. His size and athletic profile, with a full season in the nfl under his belt, gives him a chance to stand out against scrubs and make a splash in our pass rush rotation and on special teams.

Look for 10 splash plays from Snowden next year.

He could even be better in a 4-3 as a DE then he would be in a 3-4 as a OLB. He'll need to add some weight/muscle.

We'll see on that one but good option.

 

[dabears70]

Offense:
WR Dazz Newsome - could be sneaky good
WR Rodney Adams - Flashed a lot in the preseason, worth a look in 2022

Defense:
OLB/DE Charles Snowden - Flashing talent
LB Caleb Johnson - Made a lot of good plays in the preseason, buried in the regular season

Another team already signed R.Adams like a month ago.