Bears 2021 cap space is scary

[remydat]

At this point Robinson should not be extended. The fact is Foles doesn't rely on him as much as Trubs and 18-20 million per year on a non-elite WR is a stretch. ARob is a very good not great WR. That money is needed elsewhere and next year's draft will be deep at WR yet again.

 

[Pegger]

Base Salary Cap: $176,000,000

Team	Cap Space	Effective Cap Space	#	Active Cap Spending	Dead Money
Jaguars	$82,804,680	$76,864,680	42	$114,839,910	$3,083,098
Jets	$78,822,291	$68,922,291	36	$108,102,968	$15,677,076
Colts	$76,400,205	$66,500,205	36	$109,317,936	$237,143
Patriots	$67,957,822	$63,997,822	45	$131,884,447	$437,719
Washington	$55,789,766	$50,509,766	43	$144,590,099	$573,441
Ravens	$52,646,559	$44,726,559	39	$126,724,272	$10,438,777
Bengals	$36,167,879	$26,927,879	37	$150,320,045	$114,427
Dolphins	$34,172,210	$27,572,210	41	$157,749,594	$444,629
Broncos	$31,762,210	$26,482,210	43	$165,652,744	$602,118
Seahawks	$31,742,841	$20,522,841	34	$149,121,829	$309,419
Chargers	$31,681,794	$22,441,794	37	$153,727,044	$58,009
Browns	$29,298,320	$24,678,320	44	$178,969,130	$508,602
Cardinals	$28,541,325	$17,321,325	34	$156,264,741	$640,839
Buccaneers	$27,160,974	$17,260,974	36	$150,863,851	$774,917
Panthers	$23,848,021	$12,628,021	34	$149,498,681	$9,155,549
Giants	$23,465,911	$16,205,911	40	$156,854,616	$3,129,493
Cowboys	$21,576,069	$16,296,069	43	$170,076,949	$8,332,046
Lions	$17,600,194	$9,020,194	38	$174,527,909	$360,681
49ers	$13,467,302	$5,547,302	39	$168,826,147	$316,122
Titans	$13,185,937	$1,305,937	33	$170,800,637	$268,152
Bears	$4,212,581	($7,667,419)	33	$179,513,580	$1,870,992
Packers	$3,223,668	($4,696,332)	39	$180,031,043	$353,142
Bills	$1,900,802	($4,699,198)	41	$178,631,692	$1,041,156
Raiders	($5,434,709)	($13,354,709)	39	$186,983,331	$1,220,765
Texans	($6,015,723)	($14,595,723)	38	$190,683,114	$361,441
Vikings	($8,175,969)	($14,115,969)	42	$184,219,001	$470,026
Chiefs	($11,743,828)	($22,303,828)	35	$193,850,603	$693,526
Steelers	($17,112,571)	($28,332,571)	34	$202,628,760	$175,459
Rams	($19,286,256)	($23,906,256)	44	$193,846,580	$8,535,146
Falcons	($24,942,484)	($37,482,484)	32	$195,593,243	$7,692,677
Eagles	($68,933,146)	($72,893,146)	45	$262,892,033	$539,789
Saints	($78,199,622)	($82,819,622)	44	$262,617,189	$379,550

Sure the Bears are in bad shape for 2021, but there are still 11 teams that look worse than they do AND 2 of them are in your division!

I'm getting confident that the league will have to give some sort of COVID cap relief around the salary cap dropping, otherwise they will have a problem with the NFLPA when they end up cutting a massive number of players and the contract environment disallows them to make anywhere near what they were getting paid.

If the NFL doesn't step in then the NFLPA will have years to talk about the importance of fully guaranteed contracts, which the NFL wants to avoid at all costs.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I'm not certain of this, but I showed these numbers to a guy I know that follows these things, and he was telling me that Leno's deadcap number goes down if he's cut after June 1.

 

[remydat]

I'm not certain of this, but I showed these numbers to a guy I know that follows these things, and he was telling me that Leno's deadcap number goes down if he's cut after June 1.

June 1 just allows you to take the pro rated cap hit current year and the rest of it in the following year.

So if we use Leno as an example he has 2.3, 1.4 and 1.4 million SB left for 2021, 2022, and 2023. If he is cut before June 1, 2021 then all of it ie 5.1 million is his dead cap for 2021. If he is cut after June 1 then only the 2021 amount counts for 2021 ie 2.3 million. The rest of it ie 2.8 million would be pushed into 2022's cap year.

The downside would be that until you cut him he would count the full 11.3 million against the cap so basically you wouldn't be able to use that money in FA.

 

[jbd]

trevethan and leno were both ignorant extensions.

 

[HearshotKDS]

Base Salary Cap: $176,000,000

Team	Cap Space	Effective Cap Space	#	Active Cap Spending	Dead Money
Jaguars	$82,804,680	$76,864,680	42	$114,839,910	$3,083,098
Jets	$78,822,291	$68,922,291	36	$108,102,968	$15,677,076
Colts	$76,400,205	$66,500,205	36	$109,317,936	$237,143
Patriots	$67,957,822	$63,997,822	45	$131,884,447	$437,719
Washington	$55,789,766	$50,509,766	43	$144,590,099	$573,441
Ravens	$52,646,559	$44,726,559	39	$126,724,272	$10,438,777
Bengals	$36,167,879	$26,927,879	37	$150,320,045	$114,427
Dolphins	$34,172,210	$27,572,210	41	$157,749,594	$444,629
Broncos	$31,762,210	$26,482,210	43	$165,652,744	$602,118
Seahawks	$31,742,841	$20,522,841	34	$149,121,829	$309,419
Chargers	$31,681,794	$22,441,794	37	$153,727,044	$58,009
Browns	$29,298,320	$24,678,320	44	$178,969,130	$508,602
Cardinals	$28,541,325	$17,321,325	34	$156,264,741	$640,839
Buccaneers	$27,160,974	$17,260,974	36	$150,863,851	$774,917
Panthers	$23,848,021	$12,628,021	34	$149,498,681	$9,155,549
Giants	$23,465,911	$16,205,911	40	$156,854,616	$3,129,493
Cowboys	$21,576,069	$16,296,069	43	$170,076,949	$8,332,046
Lions	$17,600,194	$9,020,194	38	$174,527,909	$360,681
49ers	$13,467,302	$5,547,302	39	$168,826,147	$316,122
Titans	$13,185,937	$1,305,937	33	$170,800,637	$268,152
Bears	$4,212,581	($7,667,419)	33	$179,513,580	$1,870,992
Packers	$3,223,668	($4,696,332)	39	$180,031,043	$353,142
Bills	$1,900,802	($4,699,198)	41	$178,631,692	$1,041,156
Raiders	($5,434,709)	($13,354,709)	39	$186,983,331	$1,220,765
Texans	($6,015,723)	($14,595,723)	38	$190,683,114	$361,441
Vikings	($8,175,969)	($14,115,969)	42	$184,219,001	$470,026
Chiefs	($11,743,828)	($22,303,828)	35	$193,850,603	$693,526
Steelers	($17,112,571)	($28,332,571)	34	$202,628,760	$175,459
Rams	($19,286,256)	($23,906,256)	44	$193,846,580	$8,535,146
Falcons	($24,942,484)	($37,482,484)	32	$195,593,243	$7,692,677
Eagles	($68,933,146)	($72,893,146)	45	$262,892,033	$539,789
Saints	($78,199,622)	($82,819,622)	44	$262,617,189	$379,550

Sure the Bears are in bad shape for 2021, but there are still 11 teams that look worse than they do AND 2 of them are in your division!

I'm getting confident that the league will have to give some sort of COVID cap relief around the salary cap dropping, otherwise they will have a problem with the NFLPA when they end up cutting a massive number of players and the contract environment disallows them to make anywhere near what they were getting paid.

If the NFL doesn't step in then the NFLPA will have years to talk about the importance of fully guaranteed contracts, which the NFL wants to avoid at all costs.

Almost certainly will be some sort of Covid cap provision or the nfl may just halt the cap drop. Politics around Covid have changed, the NFLPA will fight tooth and nail against the cap dropping to $175m - that’s like the players as a whole losing over half a billion dollars across the 32 teams.

 

[Enasic]

trevethan and leno were both ignorant extensions.

Leno made sense at the time. He just completely fell off a cliff. The DT and Cohen extensions were just terrible.

 

[94c4lt1]

Leno made sense at the time. He just completely fell off a cliff. The DT and Cohen extensions were just terrible.

Yeah, I agree that the Leno extension made sense at the time. He's gone downhill since the contract. That's tough to anticipate.

Danny T is also one I don't necessarily dispute. He fell off a cliff this year (though apparently by the recent posts, this is debated).

Cohen's extension was such a headscratcher. He's a gadget player, punt returner, and has trended downward but they still extended him. I just don't get it.

 

[msadows]

Cutting Leno, Massie and Graham gets you to 13.5 million cap space. Restructure Hicks and Fuller probably gets you to 20 million or so. Not ideal but doable.

Sorry but ARob probably has to walk. Again, this is why we should have started the process of getting OL and WRs this past draft.

Hooper and Claypool/OL probably a lot better long term than 1 year Jimmy Graham and Kmet.

Yea, then you can sign no one with that 13.5 M

GJ ?

Remy the GM is as meatball as it gets.

You cut 3 starters and replace them with trash too.

 

[msadows]

Yeah, I agree that the Leno extension made sense at the time. He's gone downhill since the contract. That's tough to anticipate.

Danny T is also one I don't necessarily dispute. He fell off a cliff this year (though apparently by the recent posts, this is debated).

Cohen's extension was such a headscratcher. He's a gadget player, punt returner, and has trended downward but they still extended him. I just don't get it.

He didn't really trend downward, everyone on that offense last year did. I'm not as down on him as others are. Hard for a small guy to run when there are zero holes. His game kinda depends on a good blocking scheme.

He's still the best punt returner in the NFL. Yea, its a lot of money for a receiving back, but you have to factor in what elite KR/PR's make.....So i don't think its an overpay.

Now, you can ask if its worth paying that mostly due to the fact he returns punts at an elite level?

 

[Enasic]

Yeah, I agree that the Leno extension made sense at the time. He's gone downhill since the contract. That's tough to anticipate.

Danny T is also one I don't necessarily dispute. He fell off a cliff this year (though apparently by the recent posts, this is debated).

Cohen's extension was such a headscratcher. He's a gadget player, punt returner, and has trended downward but they still extended him. I just don't get it.

I thought the writing was on the wall for DT and would like to have seen them go younger. KPL or Kwiatkoski. The Cohen signing makes no sense at all. I can’t remember the last time he actually made an impact, and continues to make some of the dumbest decisions as a punt returner I’ve ever seen

 

[Doubledown]

You seen what happened to Minnesota and Houston when they lost #1 WR. Allen Robinson has to stay.

 

[94c4lt1]

He didn't really trend downward, everyone on that offense last year did. I'm not as down on him as others are. Hard for a small guy to run when there are zero holes. His game kinda depends on a good blocking scheme.

He's still the best punt returner in the NFL. Yea, its a lot of money for a receiving back, but you have to factor in what elite KR/PR's make.....So i don't think its an overpay.

Now, you can ask if its worth paying that mostly due to the fact he returns punts at an elite level?

From 2018 to 2019, he had half the yards (receiving and rushing) and dropped significantly in YPC and YPR. That's a small sample size, but a downward trend. Also, respectfully, I disagree. The eye test for me showed a less dynamic player. If the goalposts were sidelines, Tarik would have been a hall of famer in 2019.

 

[94c4lt1]

I thought the writing was on the wall for DT and would like to have seen them go younger. KPL or Kwiatkoski.

Kudos to you then, definitely. I was happy they re-signed DT until this season. Guess that's why I'm relegated to a dude on the spectrum, sweating and pounding on a keyboard in a dank basement somewhere while the real GMs get dat $.

 

[wonky73]

I say fuck Trevathan/Smith and their cap situation. We signed Manti Teo to the practice squad and he brings along his girlfriend......Super Bowl!

I hear his girlfriend is as beautiful and loving as every CCS members significant other.

 

[94c4lt1]

You seen what happened to Minnesota and Houston when they lost #1 WR. Allen Robinson has to stay.

Hate to say it, but if I'm Arob, I bounce and hit up another team in free agency. I think another team pays him 20M a year and probably doesn't have the inconsistency at QB like we do here. Given he's obviously disenchanted with the way his contract was handled, I wouldn't blame him.

 

[msadows]

From 2018 to 2019, he had half the yards (receiving and rushing) and dropped significantly in YPC and YPR. That's a small sample size, but a downward trend. Also, respectfully, I disagree. The eye test for me showed a less dynamic player. If the goalposts were sidelines, Tarik would have been a hall of famer in 2019.

He actually had more rushes up the middle than the sidelines, but okay.

Like I said, judging him based on last year is unfair. This oline was putrid, and still is.

You can't ask a scat back to run like a power back. It's not his game. He needs holes, they didn't provide it. I think he's a good talent. I wouldn't have paid him, but I understand the signing. Elite PR's are hard to come by also.

 

[94c4lt1]

I wouldn't have paid him

Then we agree!

 

[msadows]

Hate to say it, but if I'm Arob, I bounce and hit up another team in free agency. I think another team pays him 20M a year and probably doesn't have the inconsistency at QB like we do here. Given he's obviously disenchanted with the way his contract was handled, I wouldn't blame him.

This is what surprises me about the bears.

They don't mind paying him 14.5M a year average after an ACL 3 years ago, which was one of the richest WR contracts, but now are arguing over 2M/yr on a very fair 18m/yr contract.

I'm starting to think Ryan Pace is actually Remydat, only explanation I could think of.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Adrian Amos will be a FA after GB moves on from him. So maybe a reunion is in the future??