Bears make offer to buy Arlington Park

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To be honest, any person who does not live in the city really has no right to speak on this subject. The Bears are apart of OUR community not your's, we drive by the stadium every day on Lake Shore Drive, you guys come to town for work or on the weekends and leave. That is the extent of your relationship to Chicago and Soldier Field, yall are tourists. It's our team first and foremost. Some people literally do not have cars, this is a major public transportation city you can see every single team (Hawks, Bulls, Sox, Cubs), the biggest team in the city moving 30 minutes away to some dead suburb is crazy. The suburbs already have all the amenities, stay the fuck away from our teams.
I'd usually agree with this, as teams like the Bulls belong in Chicago, Cubs in Wrigleyville, etc.. but the Bears are probably the one team, that if moved to the suburbs, it wouldn't feel wrong. Obviously I'd rather see them play at Soldier Field because living in Chicago, it's a 15-20 minute drive to get there versus an hour or whatever it will take to go to Arlington Heights. But that drive isn't as exhausting if it's done 1 to 2 times a year. At most you're playing something like 11 games at home in a season or a number close to that versus 41 in the NBA and NHL, or 81 in MLB, or 17 in MLS.
 

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The vast majority of this site are white flighters who abandoned the city decades ago and have no loyalty to nothing except money. It's in their blood to abandon the city, it is in their soul and in their nature to abandon Chicago. This is why their conscience can even fathom a Chicago team in the suburbs. They think this is about a stadium and revenue, look at this thread 10+ pages of spoiled suburbanites talking about how much money the Bears will make. Fuck a stadium, fuck money. This is about the city (which they stopped caring about when their families left). Soldier Field may be a piece of shit, but people who only care about money are BIGGER pieces of shit than Soldier Field is. This is why I said before that they shouldnt even be talking about this subject, their opinion dont matter. They're not from here, you VISIT. Big difference. Coming to Buckingham Fountain and leaving once it get dark once a summer doesnt make you a Chicagoan.
I’m curious if you are aware that most of the players on your Bears team are “tourists” and not Chicagoans, and how you feel about that. Must cause you some angst cheering for all the well paid sellouts living in the N and NW burbs of Lake Forest, Libertyville, Vernon Hills, Long Grove, etc. and not being true Chicagoans.
 

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The vast majority of this site are white flighters who abandoned the city decades ago and have no loyalty to nothing except money. It's in their blood to abandon the city, it is in their soul and in their nature to abandon Chicago. This is why their conscience can even fathom a Chicago team in the suburbs. They think this is about a stadium and revenue, look at this thread 10+ pages of spoiled suburbanites talking about how much money the Bears will make. Fuck a stadium, fuck money. This is about the city (which they stopped caring about when their families left). Soldier Field may be a piece of shit, but people who only care about money are BIGGER pieces of shit than Soldier Field is. This is why I said before that they shouldnt even be talking about this subject, their opinion dont matter. They're not from here, you VISIT. Big difference. Coming to Buckingham Fountain and leaving once it get dark once a summer doesnt make you a Chicagoan.
If most of this board aren't Chicagoans, I guess Chicagoans aren't the best fans and the Bear should should follow their real fans out to Arlington Heights.
 

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Out in the middle of nowhere? It has better public transportation access than Soldier Field.

Ten minute walk from the train station.

Arlington Park Metra Station​


Google Maps

Wanna get shit faced at the game? Go for it and take the train.
That stop is in the parking lot of the race track. If it takes anyone ten minutes to walk to the facility from there, they are most likely crawling. Even Mitch Trubisky could hit the building with a football from there.
 

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No taxpayer ever does and yet every time there's a new stadium built, the taxpayers and the pain. Every time.

You won't get to have a say in it so to me it's a moot point.
True story: When I lived in Minneapolis I worked on a successful campaign to amend the city charter to say they couldn't give more than $1 million for a new privately owned stadium unless they first passed a public referendum.

The Metrodome was literally collapsing and they did need a place to play but that wasn't the point. The point was whether the residents of the city would have any say in how much of a new stadium they would be paying for.

When Wilf threatened to move the Vikings the state legislature simply over-road the city charter (with the support of the mayor, who had been officially for the charter amendment when she ran for office). Ultimately the state, county, and city paid for something like half of the ~$1billion US Bank Stadium. (I believe that figure doesn't include infrastructure improvements).

No politician wants to have to run against an opponent who blames them for "losing" the town's beloved team. Some of them may try to fight for a better deal but sooner or later most of them will cave in, and the owners will never have to contribute enough to make it hurt. In the mean time other projects, for example repairing crumbling highways, will have to wait.

One question I always had was why do fans favor a bigger stadium with crappier sight lines "so Chicago can get a superbowl" instead of a smaller stadium where you can actually see the game from your seat without having to watch it on the jumbo-tron? Do you feel like it personally gives you more prestige?
 

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To be honest, any person who does not live in the city really has no right to speak on this subject. The Bears are apart of OUR community not your's, we drive by the stadium every day on Lake Shore Drive, you guys come to town for work or on the weekends and leave. That is the extent of your relationship to Chicago and Soldier Field, yall are tourists. It's our team first and foremost. Some people literally do not have cars, this is a major public transportation city you can see every single team (Hawks, Bulls, Sox, Cubs), the biggest team in the city moving 30 minutes away to some dead suburb is crazy. The suburbs already have all the amenities, stay the fuck away from our teams.
Hmmm, this is a bit contradictory.

Anyway, you sound like one of those assholes that moves from rural Michigan to Wrigleyville for three years and starts yelling at people raised in Chicago that moved to the suburbs that they aren't "city" people.
 

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True story: When I lived in Minneapolis I worked on a successful campaign to amend the city charter to say they couldn't give more than $1 million for a new privately owned stadium unless they first passed a public referendum.

The Metrodome was literally collapsing and they did need a place to play but that wasn't the point. The point was whether the residents of the city would have any say in how much of a new stadium they would be paying for.

When Wilf threatened to move the Vikings the state legislature simply over-road the city charter (with the support of the mayor, who had been officially for the charter amendment when she ran for office). Ultimately the state, county, and city paid for something like half of the ~$1billion US Bank Stadium. (I believe that figure doesn't include infrastructure improvements).

No politician wants to have to run against an opponent who blames them for "losing" the town's beloved team. Some of them may try to fight for a better deal but sooner or later most of them will cave in, and the owners will never have to contribute enough to make it hurt. In the mean time other projects, for example repairing crumbling highways, will have to wait.

One question I always had was why do fans favor a bigger stadium with crappier sight lines "so Chicago can get a superbowl" instead of a smaller stadium where you can actually see the game from your seat without having to watch it on the jumbo-tron? Do you feel like it personally gives you more prestige?
It could just be that most fans don't obsess over that feeling like you do.
 

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@zack54attack i always forget do you live here? The difference about getting there vs soldier field is a lot more than 30 minutes but I don’t disagree with the plan and find some my fellow chicagoans’s provincialism about it embarrassing

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Hes right on the time, at least from springfield. But a new team down south isn't going to change any real fans allegiance. The drive makes for a nice weekend trip a few times a year
WTF, Seven hours from Springfield, on what a scooter? I used to make that drive.

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WTF, Seven hours from Springfield, on what a scooter? I used to make that drive.



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the place is huge and easy to get to, this makes too much sense for the Bears to pull it off though
 

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the place is huge and easy to get to, this makes too much sense for the Bears to pull it off though

well they are going up against other bidders and make no mistake, politicians will do their thang to sway decisions and block stuff via fine print just to make things difficult.
 

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Snow games are awesome though and one of the things that makes Bears football unique. Just because we've sucked, historically, in all types of weather, is no justification to get rid of a cool aspect of football that's already quickly disappearing from the league.

It's a retractable roof the snow games can go either way. Like for instance a playoff game is happening with a warm weather team coming in. Bears leave roof open for duh weather. Now if a team like the Packers are coming in they have the option to close the roof, especially if the Bears think they have the speed advantage in a climate controlled indoor stadium effect.
 

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It's a retractable roof the snow games can go either way. Like for instance a playoff game is happening with a warm weather team coming in. Bears leave roof open for duh weather. Now if a team like the Packers are coming in they have the option to close the roof, especially if the Bears think they have the speed advantage in a climate controlled indoor stadium effect.

I'd love that if the decision was ultimately left up to the coach and a player's vote
 

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It's a retractable roof the snow games can go either way. Like for instance a playoff game is happening with a warm weather team coming in. Bears leave roof open for duh weather. Now if a team like the Packers are coming in they have the option to close the roof, especially if the Bears think they have the speed advantage in a climate controlled indoor stadium effect.
Realistically they aren't ever leaving the dome open with rain or snow. No team would do that
 
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