Bears sign OLB Robert Quinn 5 years 70 million

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First (meatball) thought - WOW, Bears have THE best front 7 in whole NFL (plus Fuller & Jackson which then probably makes it THE best defense).

I mean, Hicks, Mack, Quinn, Goldman, Roquan, Trevathan & Nichols, that's crazy good.




But then, then you take a hard look at it and see lots of underlying issues:

1. Quinn excelled as 4-3DE, and was rather ineffective as 3-4 OLB

2. He topped 10 sacks in his contract year (was below that number in 4 prior years), plus potential age combined with durability issues

3. Waaaaay too much resources spent on D side of football while for example O-Line just plain sucks (RG and OT issues)

4. With Floyd cut, Pace record with 6 1st round picks - 1 hit (Roquan), 2 traded away (for Mack), 3 busts (White, Floyd, Trubisky), that's just putrid and severely affects the Cap (that's why Bears have Cap issues right now)
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Quinn will pressure the QB opposite Mack and that was something sorely missing. Pretending he was only good in a contract year is way off base.

What's the total cap hit are we taking this year due to White and Floyd?
 

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TL1961 said:
Yeah, I don't get the comments such as "If they don't get a QB, it's same old Bears".

No, it is Bears still lacking at QB, but improved on D. Not the same.
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People mean historically. Add up the seasons we've had a bottom half offense with a big ? at QB and a top half defense. It's basically all of them.
 

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People mean historically. Add up the seasons we've had a bottom half offense with a big ? at QB and a top half defense. It's basically all of them.
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I understand the Bears history. I have witnessed my share of it.

I understand wanting to improve the offense. What I don't understand is meatballs complaining when the team improves the D. Would you rather have a bad O and a decent D, or a great D? Improvement is improvement.

Unfortunately, I have zero faith that the Graham signing is a noticable improvement.
 
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I admittedly am one of Flos biggest fans on the site (flame away Im too old to care). I thought he was both a hell of a player, while being pretty shitty at rushing the passer. He always played hard and for some reason showed up against GB.

But..... we move on, welcome Robert. A good move.

Also, glad to see many of you are still around.
 
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