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And if Parkey makes that kick or Mitch plays better in the first half or ARob drags his foot, or the OL blocked better . . .
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Good coaches find a way to use good players. That is why guys like Bellichek and Pederson win Super Bowls.
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My feeling is this...
1) Trading Howard for a 6th rd pick in 2020 was his lowest possible value to the team...
therefore it was a wrong/bad move among a team making alot of good moves because...
A: Howard could have been identified as a poor and limiting fit to Nagy's offense before the 2018-19 season, and traded at his high point in terms of draft value
B: Howard could have been kept for one more season at little to no cost while benifiting the bears with 15 more months to solve position.
I think its a bit arragont to think you can find an NFL running back and just plug them in without a bit of a search. Howard at least provided a workhorse answer that commanded respect in this league.
I think Pace would admit the error here. Trading him for a 6th in 2020 is admitting your error here. It is what it is. I think Nagy wants to move on so its something from nothing, or addition by subtraction...but make no mistake finding what you want at running back is often harder than it looks. Trading away a young NFL caliber running back is serious.
Good luck to us.
1) Trading Howard for a 6th rd pick in 2020 was his lowest possible value to the team...
therefore it was a wrong/bad move among a team making alot of good moves because...
A: Howard could have been identified as a poor and limiting fit to Nagy's offense before the 2018-19 season, and traded at his high point in terms of draft value
B: Howard could have been kept for one more season at little to no cost while benifiting the bears with 15 more months to solve position.
I think its a bit arragont to think you can find an NFL running back and just plug them in without a bit of a search. Howard at least provided a workhorse answer that commanded respect in this league.
I think Pace would admit the error here. Trading him for a 6th in 2020 is admitting your error here. It is what it is. I think Nagy wants to move on so its something from nothing, or addition by subtraction...but make no mistake finding what you want at running back is often harder than it looks. Trading away a young NFL caliber running back is serious.
Good luck to us.
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Yikes. So trading Howard now is a way of Pace saying he made a mistake in not keeping him for this coming season?
Pace/Nagu could have kept him. They know they didnt get much for him. But they thought the player who will take Howard's roster spot will be more valuable to yhe team THIS SEASON.
That tells you whay they think of Howard...
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Exactly, he has no idea how to call a 1983 offense, how are Bears fans ever going to understand what the hell is going on.
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You say that like anyone gives a fuck.
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Where's that Cutler "Don't Care" meme when i need it...
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Something is better than nothing. I am not sure why this is so difficult to understand?
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What system is that? He has 0 explosive ability and doesn’t catch well or run routes.
Not many teams in 2019 are okay with that being a primary back. My guess is his role will be severely reduced in Philly to reflect his lack of ability in those areas.
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That is a gross over exaggeration.
Look at it like this. You're a new coach who runs a pure zone run scheme, predicated on mobile offensive lineman. You have a 330 pound guard who has no mobility but is a great power run blocker. Your argument is that the coach should alter his entire philosophy to suit one player. He should run a different offense than he wants to to suit a player who is good at one thing. That's all that's happening here.
The idea that he should just take creating mismatches with his running back off the table is absurd. He should limit his run scheme to fit one player who can't run in a power run offense? He should make an offense predicated on unpredictability totally predictable?
Making a blanket "he's good, use him" is not how football works. That's not how the Patriots win, they win because Belichik has a specific kind of player he wants, and is a brilliant defensive coordinator, and because they have the greatest quarterback of all time. They get rid of good-and great-players all the time.
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Team rely on draft picks to be contributors all the time as rookies. Especially at positions like RB.
The Bears already have 3 dudes who can be relied on for carries,
Cohen
Davis
Patterson
A rookie will not need to grind out 200 carries.
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Keeping Howard would not benefit the Bears. He was horribly inefficient last season.
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In 2016, he was 11th in attempts and 2nd in rushing yards. He was 6th in total yards from scrimmage (rushing & receiving, includes WR, TE)
In 2017, he was 5th in attempts and 6th in rushing yards. He was 16th in total yards from scrimmage.
In 2018, Howard was 6th in attempts and 14th in rushing yards. He was 36th in total yards from scrimmage.
(Stats obtained from pro-football-reference.com)
That is not a favorable trend.
I get that it was a seemingly sudden move. At the least, the timing is strange. Personally, I would have thought if they were going to move on from Howard that they would have done it closer or even during the draft. They must have felt this was their best offer and no one knows the other conditions. I doubt the Eagles would have wanted this to hang out there forever, so they likely put a timetable of take it or leave it. If the Bears had no better offers, then there you go.
I would have been fine if Howard was on the roster for the 2019 season. I am sure they would have found some way to use him. But the fact is that he has downward trending production each year. And he has trended down to a production level that is more easily replaceable. So, the Bears have decided to move on and find that replacement. My expectation is that will be Mike Davis and likely a draft pick in some form of runningback by committee approach. My assumption is that the Bears feel they can get someone else with more potential for explosive plays out of more formations and that Mike Davis can keep the chains moving and fill the short yardage / goal line stuff that Howard did.
In 2017, he was 5th in attempts and 6th in rushing yards. He was 16th in total yards from scrimmage.
In 2018, Howard was 6th in attempts and 14th in rushing yards. He was 36th in total yards from scrimmage.
(Stats obtained from pro-football-reference.com)
That is not a favorable trend.
I get that it was a seemingly sudden move. At the least, the timing is strange. Personally, I would have thought if they were going to move on from Howard that they would have done it closer or even during the draft. They must have felt this was their best offer and no one knows the other conditions. I doubt the Eagles would have wanted this to hang out there forever, so they likely put a timetable of take it or leave it. If the Bears had no better offers, then there you go.
I would have been fine if Howard was on the roster for the 2019 season. I am sure they would have found some way to use him. But the fact is that he has downward trending production each year. And he has trended down to a production level that is more easily replaceable. So, the Bears have decided to move on and find that replacement. My expectation is that will be Mike Davis and likely a draft pick in some form of runningback by committee approach. My assumption is that the Bears feel they can get someone else with more potential for explosive plays out of more formations and that Mike Davis can keep the chains moving and fill the short yardage / goal line stuff that Howard did.
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Do you understand why the Bears traded Jordan Howard?
Now that we’ve had a chance to take a breath after the big trade, what are your thoughts on the move?
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Why are you so fixated on this explosive thing? Not every successful RB is explosive. Furthermore, I don’t think an explosive RB is the engine to the offense like you are making it sound.
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Howard averaged 1.7 yards after contact last year. That ranked 30th out of 40 running backs. That's why the Bears only got a 6th for him.
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Because big plays are important.
Because both the coach and GM have talked about wanting to get more explosive at the RB position.
Because Howard isn't just lacking, he has one of the worst explosive runs percentages in the entire league.
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