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Maybe having that dominant OL and running game helps Tannehill LOOK elite? I mean, he’s better than Trent Dilfer, but he’s not a truly elite QB
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Titans also had 2 OCs that went straight to HC roles. When have the Bears ever had a good OC go on to be a HC? Gase, who helped ruin Tannehills stock to begin with. That’s about it.
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I still maintain Gase was overrated as OC based on working with Manning. guarantee he wouldn't have gotten any looks after Fox left the Broncos if he had to work with Tebow instead. his playcalling was every bit as silly as Nagy's. all things considered, the Chicago Bears in contemporary times are vastly improved over 2015 where it was like gimmick play for a loss, 2 false starts, Cutler converting 3rd and long over and over. but yes, dating back to Lovie Smith, a number of the ex-Bears OCs wound up retired/getting cast out of the league completely.
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Yep, the dominant running game is what opens up the passing game for him. Tannehill had multiple games where he completed 15 or less passes. You still gotta give it up to Tenn and Tannehill for taking his game to the next level after getting out of Miami but if you put him in a high passing offense i'm not sure the Titans would be as good.
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Aaronitout told me this morning that Tannehill is better than Rodgers. He’s currently locked up in a loony bin after the playoff exist. I’m taking message for him.
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Nagy will never run this kind of offense
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The Titans are actually an interesting team. I've watched almost all of the Titans games the last 2 years. They are definitely built to run the ball, but I wouldn't say they are built "in the trenches" and they damn sure don't play strong defense. They lost a pretty good tackle last offseason in Conklin. They lost their LT early in the season and started 3 different players there including Quessenberry, who is a natural guard. Their C-RG-RT are all mid round picks. The only big investments they made on the OL was Saffold (who's decent), Lewan (who played 15% of the snaps) and 1st round pick Isaiah Wilson who is on the verge of being cut for off-field issues, and played 0 snaps.
What they do is have a roster of 4 TEs and a FB, which is unheard of, and they run behind those TEs (including the best blocking TE in football, MyCole Pruitt) who open holes on the edge for Henry who actually does most of his damage outside of the tackle box. People look at Henry's size and thinks he's running over LBs on the inside, but their scheme does a great job of getting him in the open field against smaller safeties and CBs.
In the pass game, they were 30th in pass attempts, but it's not dinking and dunking. They playaction like crazy and throw the ball down the field. Tannehill was 4th in the league in yards per completion, and they max protect (with those TEs) and do a lot of 2-3 receiver routes with Brown and Davis running 15-25 yard routes. So, it's not like you can throw anyone at QB and replicate this offense.
What they do is have a roster of 4 TEs and a FB, which is unheard of, and they run behind those TEs (including the best blocking TE in football, MyCole Pruitt) who open holes on the edge for Henry who actually does most of his damage outside of the tackle box. People look at Henry's size and thinks he's running over LBs on the inside, but their scheme does a great job of getting him in the open field against smaller safeties and CBs.
In the pass game, they were 30th in pass attempts, but it's not dinking and dunking. They playaction like crazy and throw the ball down the field. Tannehill was 4th in the league in yards per completion, and they max protect (with those TEs) and do a lot of 2-3 receiver routes with Brown and Davis running 15-25 yard routes. So, it's not like you can throw anyone at QB and replicate this offense.
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you can't willy wonka a running game...
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The Titans defense was much better in 2019 then they were last year which is a big reason why they were better and were good in the playoffs in 2019. Getting AJ Brown really turned their passing game up a notch. His run after the catch is great for a WR his size.
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Obviously, this year's Super Bowl didn't have turds at the QB position, but if you watched the game I would guess that you saw the impact of Fournette and Jones. On the opposite side of the field, the only time I saw a spark from the KC offense was when Edwards-Helaire popped a few runs on Tampa Bay. I get it - the NFL is a copycat league and always will be, but I just don't get much pleasure out of kicking the dirty dog known as an NFL running back.
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AJ is phenomenal, but their passing game didn't turn around until they made the QB change. So, I don't think you can give the defense, run game, O-line, or AJ Brown a ton of credit, because they had all of that with Mariota and were terrible offensively. The Bears played their best when they had a running game, but when it came down to it they didn't have the QB play to get over the top.
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This philosophy has produced a franchise losing record in the Super Bowl era. And 1 championship in 55 years!
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All i said was AJ Brown turned their passing game up a notch.
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I know. And I say, Tannehill is the reason it became good.
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Well since it was bad before Tannehill then we agree on that.
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I'm not shitting on RBs or a running game. I think they are very important. A balanced offense with a franchise QB, and a good OL and RB is what will win us a championship on offense. A strong defense wouldn't hurt either. But the passing game is the most important imo.
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