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Hopefully Howard can be like Andrelton Simmons. Top notch defense and a solid contact bat
Andrelton is once in a generation. He throws 90+ mph catching a ball barehanded on the hop. No other SS can top his arm speed and accuracy. He is pound for pound the 2nd most exciting player Ive watched behind Vlad Guerrero Sr. Im a Cubs fan first and foremost, but I spent most of my life in Southern California. I was lucky to see Trout and Andrelton play together. Hell, I was there for Ohtani's first ever start at Angel stadium, Trout had a Dinger, and Andrelton was the reason Ohtani was perfect through 6 innings. Anyways, if Howard can be 95% Andrelton, we are golden.
 

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1st-rder Jordan Wicks agrees with @Cubs for $3,132,300 (full slot value at No. 21). Kansas State LHP, first 1st-rder in school history, best southpaw & best changeup in @MLBDraft. Also has a 90-95 mph fastball & improved slider.
 

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RANK
PLAYER
POSITION
TEAM
LEVEL
ETA
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Brailyn Marquez
LHPChicago CubsAA2021
2
Brennen Davis
OFChicago CubsAA2022
3
Miguel Amaya
CChicago CubsAA2021
4
Cristian Hernandez
SSChicago CubsROK2025
5
Ed Howard
SSChicago CubsA2024
6
Pete Crow-Armstrong
OFChicago CubsA2023
7
Alexander Canario
OFChicago CubsA+2023
8
Alexander Vizcaino
RHPChicago CubsA+2022
9
Kohl Franklin
RHPChicago CubsA2023
10
Christopher Morel
3BChicago CubsAA2022
11
Kevin Alcantara
OFChicago CubsROK2023
12
Ryan Jensen
RHPChicago CubsA+2022
13
Chase Strumpf
2BChicago CubsAA2022
14
Reginald Preciado
SSChicago CubsROK2024
 

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All of these guys are 50 grade players or higher. You have to figure that Wise will be in here somewhere. Not sure on the rest of the draft class though.

Mid season should be very interesting.
 
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These are the 45 grade players.

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Owen Caissie
OFChicago CubsROK2024196' 4" / 190 lbsLR
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Caleb Kilian
RHPChicago CubsAA2022246' 4" / 180 lbsRR
17
Cole Roederer
OFChicago CubsA+2022216' 0" / 180 lbsLL
18
Yohendrick Pinango
OFChicago CubsA2024195' 11" / 170 lbsLL
19
Cory Abbott
RHPChicago CubsAAA2021256' 1" / 210 lbsRR
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Greg Deichmann
OFChicago CubsAAA2021266' 2" / 205 lbsLR
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Riley Thompson
RHPChicago CubsA2022256' 4" / 210 lbsLR
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Burl Carraway
LHPChicago CubsA+2023226' 0" / 173 lbsLL
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Kevin Made
SSChicago CubsA2024185' 10" / 160 lbsRR
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Yeison Santana
SSChicago CubsROK2023205' 11" / 170 lbsRR
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Rafael Morel
SSChicago CubsROK2023196' 0" / 170 lbsRR
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Chris Clarke
RHPChicago CubsA+2022236' 7" / 215 lbsRR
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Ethan Hearn
CChicago CubsA2023205' 10" / 200 lbsLR
28
Ronnier Quintero
CChicago CubsROK2024185' 10" / 175 lbsLR
 

Chicagosports89

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These are the 45 grade players.

15
Owen Caissie
OFChicago CubsROK2024196' 4" / 190 lbsLR
16
Caleb Kilian
RHPChicago CubsAA2022246' 4" / 180 lbsRR
17
Cole Roederer
OFChicago CubsA+2022216' 0" / 180 lbsLL
18
Yohendrick Pinango
OFChicago CubsA2024195' 11" / 170 lbsLL
19
Cory Abbott
RHPChicago CubsAAA2021256' 1" / 210 lbsRR
20
Greg Deichmann
OFChicago CubsAAA2021266' 2" / 205 lbsLR
21
Riley Thompson
RHPChicago CubsA2022256' 4" / 210 lbsLR
22
Burl Carraway
LHPChicago CubsA+2023226' 0" / 173 lbsLL
23
Kevin Made
SSChicago CubsA2024185' 10" / 160 lbsRR
24
Yeison Santana
SSChicago CubsROK2023205' 11" / 170 lbsRR
25
Rafael Morel
SSChicago CubsROK2023196' 0" / 170 lbsRR
26
Chris Clarke
RHPChicago CubsA+2022236' 7" / 215 lbsRR
27
Ethan Hearn
CChicago CubsA2023205' 10" / 200 lbsLR
28
Ronnier Quintero
CChicago CubsROK2024185' 10" / 175 lbsLR
Preciado and Cassie are dominating the levels they are at
 

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Preciado and Cassie are dominating the levels they are at

Too early still. These are just snapshots in time. Caleb Kilian I can see getting into next year's rotation. He walks no one.
That is what caught my eye and that plays up fast.

Greg Deichmann I wouldn't be shocked him being called up. Jed is tossing garbage on the wall right now and a guy like him might stick.

Davis they have kept in Tenn. I believe that Jed will slow roll him up. Get him closer to the next wave.

So the two above more now guys. Not really next wave players.

Of all of them Pete Crow-Armstrong should be the gem. I see him as a lead off type. He tore his labrum back in May. Even so it cost both Baez and 1+ years of control on Williams.

They have him at 65 grade fielding. So we are talking upper level. Run at a 60. Arm 55. Hit 55. So we are talking about a lead off hitter with plus fielding skills. We can talk about all of the youth etc but this guy is a legit MLB quality talent.

Canario has holes in his game but the tools are big. He was injured so I don't make much out of this year. Next year is more of a gauge.

Viz is now the 2nd best arm (Wise might end up that guy though). He lacks a breaking pitch. But his 2 pitches are top end. Fastball 65 and change up 65. I'll be frank here. Screw starting. A 99 MPH fastball and a 90MPH change that acts like a splitter? Ya closer.
 

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Too early still. These are just snapshots in time. Caleb Kilian I can see getting into next year's rotation. He walks no one.
That is what caught my eye and that plays up fast.

Greg Deichmann I wouldn't be shocked him being called up. Jed is tossing garbage on the wall right now and a guy like him might stick.

Davis they have kept in Tenn. I believe that Jed will slow roll him up. Get him closer to the next wave.

So the two above more now guys. Not really next wave players.

Of all of them Pete Crow-Armstrong should be the gem. I see him as a lead off type. He tore his labrum back in May. Even so it cost both Baez and 1+ years of control on Williams.

They have him at 65 grade fielding. So we are talking upper level. Run at a 60. Arm 55. Hit 55. So we are talking about a lead off hitter with plus fielding skills. We can talk about all of the youth etc but this guy is a legit MLB quality talent.

Canario has holes in his game but the tools are big. He was injured so I don't make much out of this year. Next year is more of a gauge.

Viz is now the 2nd best arm (Wise might end up that guy though). He lacks a breaking pitch. But his 2 pitches are top end. Fastball 65 and change up 65. I'll be frank here. Screw starting. A 99 MPH fastball and a 90MPH change that acts like a splitter? Ya closer.
I'd like carraway to figure out how to throw a strike because he is unhittable. Vizcaino, carraway and Jensen once they give up on him starting could be a nasty back end of the pen.

Rotation by next year should have Hendricks, Steele, Thompson possibly Kilian, Mills and I'd guess they bring in some flip options.
 

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I'd like carraway to figure out how to throw a strike because he is unhittable. Vizcaino, carraway and Jensen once they give up on him starting could be a nasty back end of the pen.

Rotation by next year should have Hendricks, Steele, Thompson possibly Kilian, Mills and I'd guess they bring in some flip options.

I agree with the rotation.

I see it as:

Hendricks
Steel
Thompson
Mills

Adbert they push into set up as lefties are holding him back. Situational high leverage he could be dominate.

With the opening I would target Rondon. They can afford it.
Killian should be at Iowa to start the season. Marquez might lose 2 years combined. Repeating Tenn might be a reality.

So Killian is a 4 pitch pitcher. 98 fastball. cutter. (Ditched the slider) Solid curve and a changeup. I see him pushing Mills out and if his walk rates continue he might end up a solid #3 starter behind Rondon.


With the time frames going on CF we are talking Davis at AAA for a year. Ortega David loved like a baby. I see him sticking next year. Armstrong will be at SB and 4 years out.

LF Happ and I really hope Jed trades him.
RF Heyward. I would hold him unless they can get 2 corner OF. Then eat his remainder and move on.

Those two opening the best players are Castillanos and Confronto. Either can play RF. It matters little. Davis would be up late year and Ortega moved. The next closest is Armstrong and he would push Davis to RF. At that point Castillanos moves to 1B and Confronto to LF.

so we are talking about 1 year to Davis, Armstrong 4 years.

I would be down to offer Castellanos (30) a 8 year deal. 30/31/32/33/34/35/36/37 25 AAV. Front load it. He slides to 1B late contract or earlier if Wisdom takes a dump.

Michael Conforto (29) same thing 8 year deal.

Now I wouldn't worry about blocking anything. Players are traded all of the time. This is a non issue.

But this makes the Cubs interesting in 2022. Then you add Davis and Killian later year and if Marquez starts pushing the dial the time line might jump even faster.

So I see this as stage 1. and stage 2. Not wait 5 years for stage 1.
 

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From the position player standpoint, I don't like the fact that none of our players are legit prospects (like Baez and Bryant). According to mlb.com, we only have two prospects that are "Top-10" at their respected positions in (Marquez and Strumpf). I do like our pitching prospect that we have received recently via trades and the draft in Wicks.
 

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