That’s a very simple way of looking at it. Homosexuality in Ancient Greece and Rome was a lot like it is today in America. At points people didn’t care and at points they hated it. For example, Plato didn’t see why people thought it was bad early in life, but near the end he was vehemently against it. Its a complicated subject, but people should ask why it’s being pushed everywhere.
Plato believed in reason sans observation. Had no use for the arts etc. Thought philosophers like him should be in charge of everything. Impractical, interesting and tunnel visioned.
Do you think the most popular politicians should be in charge of everything? The problem with democracy is the things people like aren’t conducive to a strong and moral society. It’s pretty much doomed to fail when people start expecting too much from their representatives and too little from themselves. I doubt much has changed in that regard since Ancient Greece. Maybe Plato WAS onto something.
Yet he did 180*s on things like gayness through his lifetime so no. The idea of elected politicians in a democracy is that there's a enough of them to maintain some balance so none are in charge of everything. It's when they get enough power to tip the scales so they no longer represent the demographic that we have some issue but at least they represent people as opposed to some mythical ideal. Aristotle was down on religion while Plato was not, even though one studied with the other. They are still human and equally fallible and would become more so when actually having to do more shit than just think about it, LOL. Socialism vs democracy? Philosophers' views are just as diverse as lay people. I sure wouldn't want Ayn Rand or one of the pure socialism philosophers in charge.
Nah. Cheap labor. Ask Plato about slaves.
I’m not saying democracy should be replaced in the states. With all of its faults, it’s better than the alternative. Leaders will always be flawed, no matter what system provides them. There’s only one Jesus Christ, and comparing anyone else but yourself to him is a waste of time. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
One person, one vote and add them up, Hindis and atheists too. Make it harder to buy and manipulate elections.
Nah. I think there should be a little effort in voting to dissuade anyone who doesn’t really care from voting. We should do what countries like Mexico and Ghana do. Paper ballots, IDs required, and thumb prints used on the ballot for authenticity.
How did I already know you'd say that and hold corrupt 2nd world counties as your ideal? Ghana is one of the most corrupt governments and it's partially because they can control voting with some of what you describe. Mexico isn't that much better. That's what happens when arguments are driven by bias instead of reason. Next you'll tell me that you're concerned about heathens, poor that have been denied equal access to voting, murder of the unborn, the need for armed guards at schools, while you voted for the most anti religious, lying and corrupt cheater candidate this country has ever seen. Fricking false constitutionalist brainwashed into thinking voting is not a right but a privilege so they can more easily be controlled. Voting is the most fundamental right in any democracy. I'm not starting on how it's easier to mess with and screw counts with paper ballots but they'd be fine enough as long as everyone got one. Remember hanging chads, took a month to settle that election in controversy. This last election was over in days and proven to have a very accurate result. Paper is just moving backwards for no reason, more waste and delayed outcomes.
And a fine one it is. Just renewed my county golf card.
LMAO.
Hmm there's a good chance that I might be mistaken, but wasn't he talking about Tyler Scott?
Let's get one thing clear. The original word for "Gay" meant "very very happy"
Agree with a lot of what you say here, but whether the right to vote or the right to free speech is the most important democratic attribute would be a very good discussion.How did I already know you'd say that and hold corrupt 2nd world counties as your ideal? Ghana is one of the most corrupt governments and it's partially because they can control voting with some of what you describe. Mexico isn't that much better. That's what happens when arguments are driven by bias instead of reason. Next you'll tell me that you're concerned about heathens, poor that have been denied equal access and voting, murder of the unborn, the need for armed guards at schools, while you voted for the most anti religious, lying and corrupt cheater candidate this country has ever seen. Fricking constitutionalist brainwashed into thinking voting is not a right but a privilege so they can more easily be controlled. Voting is the most fundamental right in any democracy. I'm not starting on how it's easier is to mess with and screw counts with paper ballots but they'd be fine enough as long as everyone got one. Remember hanging chads, took a month to settle that election in controversy. This last election was over in days and proven to have a very accurate result. Paper is just moving backwards for no reason, more waste and delayed outcomes.
How many losses, investigations and judgements does one need to see electronic voting is secure and the most accurate way to do this?
Once a vote is suppressed in any way beyond obvious restrictions of age etc, it's no longer a true democracy and you'll have your chosen few running things... until the other shoe drops, they're no longer your chosen few and you can't do shit about it. Fricking brane dead sheep.
I'm out but I wasn't going to just sit here and let a nonsensical poorly veiled political argument stand.
Mexico and Ghana.
He specifically said Velus Jones. Maybe he misspoke but that’s the name he said.
