jts1207
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Can anyone explain the thought process here? Just complete stupidity is all I can come up with.....
Can anyone explain the thought process here? Just complete stupidity is all I can come up with.....
It all started with Cohens fair catch..There was no reason for it...Plenty of room to run..As a result, the Bears started at their 11, and as we all know, the play calling suffers when you start at the 11..Things went down hill fast after Cohens blunder..He has a habit of doing thatCan anyone explain the thought process here? Just complete stupidity is all I can come up with.....
There were in no man's land. With 1 minute left they are forced to throw the ball. By the time 3rd down came detroit could have just called a timeout regardless.
It came down to not converting and the defense falling apart.
It all started with Cohens fair catch..There was no reason for it...Plenty of room to run..As a result, the Bears started at their 11, and as we all know, the play calling suffers when you start at the 11..Things went down hill fast after Cohens blunder..He has a habit of doing that
There would have been no point to getting the ball back then if you are just going to run.Which at that point you run 3 times
And then you complain because Nagy went conservative and didn’t even try to score...Which at that point you run 3 times
Right! The shitstorm would have been way worse had he gone conservative.And then you complain because Nagy went conservative and didn’t even try to score...
Nagy is year 3 and still confused.
why wouldn’t he call a timeout for his defense late in the game?! The clock stopped his guys were tired. Make substitutions get 6 DBs on the field. I mean wtf!
And then you complain because Nagy went conservative and didn’t even try to score...
I think you're overcomplicating it with hindsight bias.It started when he called an immediate timeout after det 3rd down play...
I wouldn't have called it as det showed earlier they would consider going for 4th and half yard so why stop the clock to let them (if anything let the clock run down to just under a min before calling timeout if you see them sending out the punt team)
Cohen then fair catches the punt vs returning 5-10 yards and taking 5-10 more seconds off the clock
At that point with 1:10 left and on your own 10 your strategy should be to first control the clock not be all in for points as det had 3 timeouts
He needed to call a first down play (draw screen in center of field) that ideally picked up a few yards but KEPT the clock moving. This prevents det from using a to as they believe your aggressive OR they do burn a timeout and you reevaluate
Instead it's a swing pass to sideways Tarik who loves nothing more than running out of bounds...which he does
At that point I'd have reevaluated and called another safe /high % play that keeps the clock moving (screen, draw, qb draw)
You know the rest.
Point is he can't manage a clock and seemingly can't adjust his critical and strategic thinking from play to play....he's gotta keep going with his initial thought process (we called timeout to try and score and despite the circumstances that followed we're sticking with that thought process)
I think you're overcomplicating it with hindsight bias.
I admit, I had the same thought process as you, in that I wanted a play towards the center of the field to run the clock down a bit, but it's not even close to a black-and-white situation where there's a clear right and wrong. I don't think Nagy designed for the play to end up out of bounds, that was simply a poor decision on Tarik's part to go out of bounds, but again, it's not black and white and it could have helped us if we had gotten a first down on 2nd or 3rd down. I think you're also being very specific with what you would have done, and while I agree with your assessment, I don't think there's a lot of coaches in the NFL who would have done that too (I've always been amazed at how poor NFL head coaches are at game/clock management, and comparatively, I honestly think Nagy is probably one of the better ones).
On the other hand, not in a million years would I hire a coach who believes that running the ball three times in a row with over a minute on the clock and two timeouts (just because your inside the 15) is a good idea, especially since the other team had 3 timeouts to stop the clock. It seems like some posters think that was the best way to go.