Expectations for Justin Fields vs other good rookies.

[Black Rainbow]

If Justin Fields starts week one in Matt Nagy's well oiled machine, what kinda passing numbers do you expect?

Seeing how we used a 1st round pick on Fields and traded the 2022 1st round pick, the expectations are immediately high. You don't make that trade for a guy that ends up like Sam Darnold. That trade was made because the Bears feel he's got top QB potential - not just a franchise guy - but something special like the men below.

I went to the trouble of adjusting some of the NFL's top young QBs as if they played 16 games...and here are the numbers. I used Lamar Jackson's second year because everyone knew he was a super rough prospect his rookie year. I understand if ppl think that he shouldn't be on the list - that's fine.

Looking at these guys: Isn't 3,800 yards and 30 TDs reasonable for Justin Fields in Nagy's 4th year of coaching? Considering the extra 1st round pick we gave up?

Patrick Mahomes - 5,097 yards, 50 TDs, 12 INTS (16 starts)
Justin Herbert - 4,336 yards, 31 TDs, 10 INTs (16 starts)
Baker Mayfield - 4,257 yards, 30 TDs, 16 INTs (Adjusted for 16 games)
Deshaun Watson - 3,883 yards, 43 TDs, 18 INTs (Adjusted for 16 games)
Kyler Murray - 3,722 yards, 20 TDs, 12 INTs (16 starts)
Joe Burrow - 4,300 yards, 21 TDs, 8 INTs (Adjusted for 16 games)
Lamar Jackson - 3,335 yards, 38 TDs, 6 INTs (2nd year, adjusted for 16 games.)

*maybe I'll add in everyone's rushing stats if this thread has interest.

 

[jts1207]

Nagy won’t start Fields because he has to make himself look smart.

 

[Black Rainbow]

Nagy won’t start Fields because he has to make himself look smart.

Well, this is hypothetical - if he does start.

Posters could just pretend I'm asking what kinda numbers we should see after he gets 16 starts.

 

[Leomaz]

I expect him to have

4132 yards passing
33 tds
11 ints

adjusted for a 16 game schedule

 

[Leomaz]

If Justin Fields starts week one in Matt Nagy's well oiled machine, what kinda passing numbers do you expect?

Seeing how we used a 1st round pick on Fields and traded the 2022 1st round pick, the expectations are immediately high. You don't make that trade for a guy that ends up like Sam Darnold. That trade was made because the Bears feel he's got top QB potential - not just a franchise guy - but something special like the men below.

I went to the trouble of adjusting some of the NFL's top young QBs as if they played 16 games...and here are the numbers. I used Lamar Jackson's second year because everyone knew he was a super rough prospect his rookie year. I understand if ppl think that he shouldn't be on the list - that's fine.

Looking at these guys: Isn't 3,800 yards and 30 TDs reasonable for Justin Fields in Nagy's 4th year of coaching? Considering the extra 1st round pick we gave up?

Patrick Mahomes - 5,097 yards, 50 TDs, 12 INTS (16 starts)
Justin Herbert - 4,336 yards, 31 TDs, 10 INTs (16 starts)
Baker Mayfield - 4,257 yards, 30 TDs, 16 INTs (Adjusted for 16 games)
Deshaun Watson - 3,883 yards, 43 TDs, 18 INTs (Adjusted for 16 games)
Kyler Murray - 3,722 yards, 20 TDs, 12 INTs (16 starts)
Joe Burrow - 4,300 yards, 21 TDs, 8 INTs (Adjusted for 16 games)
Lamar Jackson - 3,335 yards, 38 TDs, 6 INTs (2nd year, adjusted for 16 games.)

*maybe I'll add in everyone's rushing stats if this thread has interest.

I wished you would stop complain about extra draft picks. It doesn’t make him better or worse because of where he was drafted, how he was drafted. He is the same Justin Fields if we drafted him straight up, in the 2nd rd, or traded the whole draft for him. The expectations are high because of how he played in college and because we haven’t had a quarterback since who knows when, not where he was drafted or how many draft picks we used to get him. My GOD.

 

[Midway Fields]

Well, this is hypothetical - if he does start.

Posters could just pretend I'm asking what kinda numbers we should see after he gets 16 starts.

Wouldn’t you just extrapolate it like you did for the other guys lol.

 

[Black Rainbow]

Wouldn’t you just extrapolate it like you did for the other guys lol.

Sure...he's gotta play first tho.

And once he does start...he'll probably play enough consecutive games to do just that.

 

[iueyedoc]

Factoring in Nagy fuckery, starting 10 games, I would say 2700yrds 20 TD's , 5 INT's, 7 TD receptions, 4 TD Kick returns , and 2 pick 6 returns playing slot CB.

 

[Black Rainbow]

Factoring in Nagy fuckery, starting 10 games, I would say 2700yrds 20 TD's 5 INT's 7 TD receptions, 4 TD Kick returns , and 2 pick 6 returns.

My God, someone answered with some numbers. It's a minor miracle on CCS.

Thank you, however sarcastic it is... ?

 

[bamainatlanta]

If Justin Fields starts week one in Matt Nagy's well oiled machine, what kinda passing numbers do you expect?

Seeing how we used a 1st round pick on Fields and traded the 2022 1st round pick, the expectations are immediately high. You don't make that trade for a guy that ends up like Sam Darnold. That trade was made because the Bears feel he's got top QB potential - not just a franchise guy - but something special like the men below.

I went to the trouble of adjusting some of the NFL's top young QBs as if they played 16 games...and here are the numbers. I used Lamar Jackson's second year because everyone knew he was a super rough prospect his rookie year. I understand if ppl think that he shouldn't be on the list - that's fine.

Looking at these guys: Isn't 3,800 yards and 30 TDs reasonable for Justin Fields in Nagy's 4th year of coaching? Considering the extra 1st round pick we gave up?

Patrick Mahomes - 5,097 yards, 50 TDs, 12 INTS (16 starts)
Justin Herbert - 4,336 yards, 31 TDs, 10 INTs (16 starts)
Baker Mayfield - 4,257 yards, 30 TDs, 16 INTs (Adjusted for 16 games)
Deshaun Watson - 3,883 yards, 43 TDs, 18 INTs (Adjusted for 16 games)
Kyler Murray - 3,722 yards, 20 TDs, 12 INTs (16 starts)
Joe Burrow - 4,300 yards, 21 TDs, 8 INTs (Adjusted for 16 games)
Lamar Jackson - 3,335 yards, 38 TDs, 6 INTs (2nd year, adjusted for 16 games.)

*maybe I'll add in everyone's rushing stats if this thread has interest.

Mahomes was in his 2nd year as well

 

[bamainatlanta]

Rating in the low-ish 90's but great number on the ground as well.

 

[Black Rainbow]

Mahomes was in his 2nd year as well

Yes, but most of the other guys started year one and hit the ground running.

Recent history shows if you're going to be good, it's immediately obvious (outside of Josh Allen). There's five examples of guys who did just that.

Then there's the others who seem like decent starters but not special, and there were signs that'd be the case: Goff, Wentz, Darnold, Trubisky, etc

 

[Midway Fields]

Yes, but most of the other guys started year one and hit the ground running.

Recent history shows if you're going to be good, it's immediately obvious (outside of Josh Allen). There's five examples of guys who did just that.

Then there's the others who seem like decent starters but not special, and there were signs that'd be the case: Goff, Wentz, Darnold, Trubisky, etc

Goff and Wentz both had good 2nd and 3rd years

 

[Anytime23]

"Nagy's well oiled machine"

 

[Black Rainbow]

Goff and Wentz both had good 2nd and 3rd years

I'm certainly hoping Fields is better than Wentz and Goff.

I would think most of CCS agrees.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Seeing how we used a 1st round pick on Fields and traded the 2022 1st round pick, the expectations are immediately high. You don't make that trade for a guy that ends up like Sam Darnold. That trade was made because the Bears feel he's got top QB potential - not just a franchise guy - but something special like the men below.

Sam Darnold Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

All Combine and Draft-Related Analysis, News, Video, and Biographical Information for Sam Darnold

www.nfl.com

Justin Fields Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

All Combine and Draft-Related Analysis, News, Video, and Biographical Information for Justin Fields

www.nfl.com

Sam Darnold might very well be the perfect example of how to screw up a rookie QB.

 

[Black Rainbow]

Sam Darnold Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

All Combine and Draft-Related Analysis, News, Video, and Biographical Information for Sam Darnold

www.nfl.com

Justin Fields Draft and Combine Prospect Profile | NFL.com

All Combine and Draft-Related Analysis, News, Video, and Biographical Information for Justin Fields

www.nfl.com

?

 

[Canth]

If Justin Fields starts week one in Matt Nagy's well oiled machine, what kinda passing numbers do you expect?

Seeing how we used a 1st round pick on Fields and traded the 2022 1st round pick, the expectations are immediately high. You don't make that trade for a guy that ends up like Sam Darnold. That trade was made because the Bears feel he's got top QB potential - not just a franchise guy - but something special like the men below.

I went to the trouble of adjusting some of the NFL's top young QBs as if they played 16 games...and here are the numbers. I used Lamar Jackson's second year because everyone knew he was a super rough prospect his rookie year. I understand if ppl think that he shouldn't be on the list - that's fine.

Looking at these guys: Isn't 3,800 yards and 30 TDs reasonable for Justin Fields in Nagy's 4th year of coaching? Considering the extra 1st round pick we gave up?

Patrick Mahomes - 5,097 yards, 50 TDs, 12 INTS (16 starts)
Justin Herbert - 4,336 yards, 31 TDs, 10 INTs (16 starts)
Baker Mayfield - 4,257 yards, 30 TDs, 16 INTs (Adjusted for 16 games)
Deshaun Watson - 3,883 yards, 43 TDs, 18 INTs (Adjusted for 16 games)
Kyler Murray - 3,722 yards, 20 TDs, 12 INTs (16 starts)
Joe Burrow - 4,300 yards, 21 TDs, 8 INTs (Adjusted for 16 games)
Lamar Jackson - 3,335 yards, 38 TDs, 6 INTs (2nd year, adjusted for 16 games.)

*maybe I'll add in everyone's rushing stats if this thread has interest.

IF Justin Fields were start week 1 and play all 17 games, then yes I think 3800 yards and ~30 TD's (combined passing and rushing) is reasonable.

 

[Musashiblade]

He will do better than mitch trubisky second year of starting I'll say that. Both have the same coach so you can make the comparisons better. the other QBs have different offense, coaching and situations.

 

[nc0gnet0]

?

You don't make that trade for a guy that ends up like Sam Darnold.