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The guy missed a throw... relax. I saw Jimmy G miss a WIDE OPEN Deebo in the endzone on a wheel route. It happens.

Clearly Fields is frustrated, though. He just needs to see himself have some success and he'll be fine. It's a process, the team knows this, the kid works his ass off... I think he'll be fine.

So for all you goofballs that don't know, Fields and guys like him have been playing quarterback and attending camps since they were 10 years old. He understands concepts, where to go with the ball and why.

What he's struggling with is timing up his footwork and trusting his instincts. I bet that once he has his breakout game all of that will change.

Stop acting like a bunch of pussies.
 

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Honestly I weirdly felt better watching the film of this game. This really wasn't about Fields not being able to read defenses. This just looks like a guy that is a bit of a scary bitch right now and someone needs to slap the shit out of him and tell him to man up and make the throws he can easily make. Like most of these stuff is basic stuff and he just seems to be suffering from paralysis by analysis right now but that is easily correctable IMO.

Getsy needs to be firm with him and tell him to stop trying to be a hero or wait on other stuff. Take the easy throws the D is giving you and let the chips fall where they may.

I think he's afraid of making a mistake and its making him hesitate. Hes overthinking it way too much
 

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LOL So that is why you want to cut Fields after 14 games? He went to Ohio St.?

I think the Bears should give Fields a chance to play with competent coaching and quality talent before giving up on a first rounder.

Or the Bears could use Cade Mcnown as an excuse to overreact and shoot themselves in the foot like the crying little bitches ITT.

The Elway example was used to point out, you do NOT judge a QB on his first dozen games. Well idiots do, but successful teams do not.
I guess the Arizona Cardinals are morons for dumping Josh Rosen and drafting Kyler Murray?
 

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The guy missed a throw... relax. I saw Jimmy G miss a WIDE OPEN Deebo in the endzone on a wheel route. It happens.

Clearly Fields is frustrated, though. He just needs to see himself have some success and he'll be fine. It's a process, the team knows this, the kid works his ass off... I think he'll be fine.

So for all you goofballs that don't know, Fields and guys like him have been playing quarterback and attending camps since they were 10 years old. He understands concepts, where to go with the ball and why.

What he's struggling with is timing up his footwork and trusting his instincts. I bet that once he has his breakout game all of that will change.

Stop acting like a bunch of pussies.

Agreed!

Ohio State University has the biggest history of quarterback busts out of any school by a wide margin.

 

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I have zero idea what he's waiting for on that play. Who is he waiting on to get open? Does he not know the play? Is he concussed? He's gun shy this season and it makes zero sense
It’s interesting to hear Dilfers take. He does have a bias towards fields but I think he’s being objective. Especially about not being “the guy”
 

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More honesty from Fields.

Jahns: “It’s only your third game with Luke Getsy calling plays, Matt Eberflus as your head coach. Having that patience while you’re trying to learn and have all these mistakes, like how do you balance what happened in this game versus the overall picture of the season?”

Fields: “Yeah, for sure, I think it’s just constantly getting better,” he replied. “Of course, it’s early right now. But I guarantee you all the guys in the locker room on the offense, they’re not going to make that excuse. ‘It’s early. We don’t want to be as productive.’ This and that. So you can really just throw that out the window for me because I want to be as productive as I could be. … So again, I played terrible. I’m going to get better. We’re going to get better as a whole.”


Translation - Stop making excuses for the kid.
 

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More honesty from Fields.

Jahns: “It’s only your third game with Luke Getsy calling plays, Matt Eberflus as your head coach. Having that patience while you’re trying to learn and have all these mistakes, like how do you balance what happened in this game versus the overall picture of the season?”

Fields: “Yeah, for sure, I think it’s just constantly getting better,” he replied. “Of course, it’s early right now. But I guarantee you all the guys in the locker room on the offense, they’re not going to make that excuse. ‘It’s early. We don’t want to be as productive.’ This and that. So you can really just throw that out the window for me because I want to be as productive as I could be. … So again, I played terrible. I’m going to get better. We’re going to get better as a whole.”


Translation - Stop making excuses for the kid.

Yeah the difference is the last line. Halve the posters on this board want to say he played terrible, he’s a bust.
It’s not an excuse to say the o line needs to play better in pass pro. There’s a fucking scrub at center and an unprecedented r guard rotation going on that for some reason is taking the bears best o lineman off the field hurting the entire team because flus has some issue with his practice.

The 2nd year 5th round r tackle is a bust, maybe not nfl quality. The first year 5th round LT is doing okay for a rookie, I’ll give him a pass.

The veteran LG has been decent but nothing to write about, certainly won’t be in any conversations for top half of the league play, let alone pro bowl.

The line is playing better than expected, expectations were dead last. Congrats to the bears for not having the worst o line, just a poor one.

Even flus has said the o line needs to play better.

And yes, fields has been garbage as well, it’s true.
 

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Yeah the difference is the last line. Halve the posters on this board want to say he played terrible, he’s a bust.
It’s not an excuse to say the o line needs to play better in pass pro. There’s a fucking scrub at center and an unprecedented r guard rotation going on that for some reason is taking the bears best o lineman off the field hurting the entire team because flus has some issue with his practice.

The 2nd year 5th round r tackle is a bust, maybe not nfl quality. The first year 5th round LT is doing okay for a rookie, I’ll give him a pass.

The veteran LG has been decent but nothing to write about, certainly won’t be in any conversations for top half of the league play, let alone pro bowl.

The line is playing better than expected, expectations were dead last. Congrats to the bears for not having the worst o line, just a poor one.

Even flus has said the o line needs to play better.

And yes, fields has been garbage as well, it’s true.

for a backup player at center the bears could do worse, i'm not a fan of mustipher either but he's been solid filling in for patrick...as for why patrick keeps rotating in, my guess is flus wants to get him live reps to get him up to game speed when he's ready to take over center again which should be this week is my guess, the cast is off so its just a matter of patrick feeling comfortable snapping the ball.
the line has played well enough for a functional qb to make plays...jones has played exceptionally well not just ok given he's a 5th rd pick who really didnt deal with nfl level talent in college. i agree that borom has been too inconsistent but i think your being too harsh on the line...a poor oline doesnt give the bears those kinds of running lanes making them a top 5 ypc team so far.
 

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Yeah the difference is the last line. Halve the posters on this board want to say he played terrible, he’s a bust.
It’s not an excuse to say the o line needs to play better in pass pro. There’s a fucking scrub at center and an unprecedented r guard rotation going on that for some reason is taking the bears best o lineman off the field hurting the entire team because flus has some issue with his practice.

The 2nd year 5th round r tackle is a bust, maybe not nfl quality. The first year 5th round LT is doing okay for a rookie, I’ll give him a pass.

The veteran LG has been decent but nothing to write about, certainly won’t be in any conversations for top half of the league play, let alone pro bowl.

The line is playing better than expected, expectations were dead last. Congrats to the bears for not having the worst o line, just a poor one.

Even flus has said the o line needs to play better.

And yes, fields has been garbage as well, it’s true.

The fact there are negative nancies doesn't excuse the white knights. Both sides are being extreme and stupid. As to your other points.

1. Mustipher has not been a scrub. He has given up 2 pressures and grades out at 62 who adequate.

2. No evidence the right guard rotation is significantly hurting the team. Patrick has poor grades but has given up 4 pressures and zero sacks. Jenkins has given up 2 pressures and zero sacks. Jenkins has been better in the run game but Patrick as been fine as well. It is just something people say to distract from the Fields issue. And if you hate Mustipher so bad then having Patrick in game shape when he eventually starts at C is a good thing especially considering we are 2-1 right now.

3. Borom is 35th at tackle at 66.5 with 5 pressures and 2 sacks. He is basically an average right tackle.

4. Jones is 41st ie worse than Borom at 63.2 with 9 pressures and 3 sacks. So he is a bit below average at this point but certainly better at his job than Fields is at his job.

5. Whitehair is 14th out of 64 starting guards so literally top half of the league and our best graded OL with a 71.7 and just 3 pressures.

Yes the OL has to play better but no they are not a poor one. They are currently 21st pass blocking per PFF and 2nd run blocking so in totality they are a decent OL. People are trying to make them worse than what they are as a means to deflect from Fields being shit. Fields is currently the worse graded QB and there are certainly QBs whose OLs are worse than the Bears.
 

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Honestly I weirdly felt better watching the film of this game. This really wasn't about Fields not being able to read defenses. This just looks like a guy that is a bit of a scary bitch right now and someone needs to slap the shit out of him and tell him to man up and make the throws he can easily make. Like most of these stuff is basic stuff and he just seems to be suffering from paralysis by analysis right now but that is easily correctable IMO.

Getsy needs to be firm with him and tell him to stop trying to be a hero or wait on other stuff. Take the easy throws the D is giving you and let the chips fall where they may.
Think you nailed it. Fields just needs to sack up and stop feeling sorry for himself. Time to show some testicular fortitude and resiliency
 

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The guy missed a throw... relax. I saw Jimmy G miss a WIDE OPEN Deebo in the endzone on a wheel route. It happens.

Clearly Fields is frustrated, though. He just needs to see himself have some success and he'll be fine. It's a process, the team knows this, the kid works his ass off... I think he'll be fine.

So for all you goofballs that don't know, Fields and guys like him have been playing quarterback and attending camps since they were 10 years old. He understands concepts, where to go with the ball and why.

What he's struggling with is timing up his footwork and trusting his instincts. I bet that once he has his breakout game all of that will change.

Stop acting like a bunch of pussies.

Cant believe some of the stuff I read on here. He missed a throw really? My man this is the NFL. Yeah missing happens. Good QBs get that excuse. It doesn't fly when you're already playing like a practice squad player, and he can't even hit a screen accurately. And mentioning Garoppolo isn't exactly a shining endorsement, considering he was nearly a step away from being a Lame-duck Tier QB.
 
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Blah, blah, blah, I have to practice harder, blah blah blah, no practice won’t help. I haven’t seen one thing field’s can do that makes him a starting QB in the nfl. He fking can’t read a defense, that’s as obvious as the nose on my face!

The offensive line is as bad as coach green thought it was!! Fourth set of coaches now and that line only got worse!! WTH?

Still no fking quality receiver!

I also don’t see any fight in the team!

Sad!

Finally, I am more convinced today that the coaches are told by management to avoid greatness!! Never do they run a successful play twice in a game! I don’t see any thought structure in a game plan. Offense continues the John Schoop offense!
 
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Saw someone post on Twitter that per Pro Football Focus, the Bears' wide receivers have the 3rd worst open rate in the league, ahead of only the Saints and one other team (I think maybe the Panthers, but may be misremembering).

It's hard to argue the lack of quality WRs is certainly not helping Fields and contributing at least in part to his struggles. That said, I don't think that explains *all* of what we're seeing on Sundays, and I think it would take a pretty rosy perspective on Fields' current state of development to lump it all on the WRs and the O-line.
 
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Blah, blah, blah, I have to practice harder, blah blah blah, no practice won’t help. I haven’t seen one thing field’s can do that makes him a starting QB in the nfl. He fking can’t read a defense, that’s as obvious as the nose on my face!

The offensive line is as bad as coach green thought it was!! Fourth set of coaches now and that line only got worse!! WTH?

Still no fking quality receiver!

I also don’t see any fight in the team!

Sad!

Finally, I am more convinced today that the coaches are told by management to avoid greatness!! Never do they run a successful play twice in a game! I don’t see any thought structure in a game plan. Offense continues the John Schoop offense!
This is quality bear Fandom right here! Really highlights the low IQ, no nonsense attitude of this base
 

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The fact there are negative nancies doesn't excuse the white knights. Both sides are being extreme and stupid. As to your other points.

1. Mustipher has not been a scrub. He has given up 2 pressures and grades out at 62 who adequate.

2. No evidence the right guard rotation is significantly hurting the team. Patrick has poor grades but has given up 4 pressures and zero sacks. Jenkins has given up 2 pressures and zero sacks. Jenkins has been better in the run game but Patrick as been fine as well. It is just something people say to distract from the Fields issue. And if you hate Mustipher so bad then having Patrick in game shape when he eventually starts at C is a good thing especially considering we are 2-1 right now.

3. Borom is 35th at tackle at 66.5 with 5 pressures and 2 sacks. He is basically an average right tackle.

4. Jones is 41st ie worse than Borom at 63.2 with 9 pressures and 3 sacks. So he is a bit below average at this point but certainly better at his job than Fields is at his job.

5. Whitehair is 14th out of 64 starting guards so literally top half of the league and our best graded OL with a 71.7 and just 3 pressures.

Yes the OL has to play better but no they are not a poor one. They are currently 21st pass blocking per PFF and 2nd run blocking so in totality they are a decent OL. People are trying to make them worse than what they are as a means to deflect from Fields being shit. Fields is currently the worse graded QB and there are certainly QBs whose OLs are worse than the Bears.

1. I honestly don’t like how the hurries are calculated but maybe that is just my poor opinion. Mustipher gets pushed back frequently and if the interior isn’t good then there is no pocket to step into. Giving up hurries is obviously important, but keeping a clean pocket is equally important and imo he gets pushed back too easy.

2. You start by saying Patrick has graded out poor, how can you justify the move?? It doesn’t feel objective to cite css when it’s in your favor like with borom, then ignore the grades when it isn’t in your arguments favor. If we want the best Chicago bears we should want the player that is playing better to start. Right now that’s teven.

Have they had the same Amount of snaps, I honestly don’t remember if this started week one or two. If teven has more snaps and grades better this makes no sense. It’s asinine to bench the guy who is playing better, a complete mismanagement imo.

3. I’d be curious to see stats about how much help has been given in certain situations, and how that can help the numbers. Week 1 a tackle had help every down, have to imagine that bolstered numbers.

4. 41st, yikes. I’d argue LT is a pretty important position particularly in the pass game. I’d also argue he get help all week 1, and his 41st rank is padded by that.

5. Seems like I was wrong about whitehair but not the tackles.

Fields has played like shit. Absolute garbage besides 1 quarter in week 1.

However, this is exactly why the national media killed the bears. Fields looks like a rookie, and it’s really not all that surprising considering he has less than 1 year of experience. When looking to help out a rookie having a good, not 21st ranked OL but an actual good OL, helps a rookie. Look at the eagles for an example of this. At bare minimum a competent LT would be helpful. Poles is quoted as saying a big time receiver is the most helpful for a rookie, did he not? Bears don’t have that and imo kmet is another pace bust.

What are the expectations for fields? Like realistically what is he supposed to do? At this point imo it would take a top 10 QB to elevate this bears passing offense to mediocre. It would take someone who can make quick reads and throw the ball accurately. Someone who can read a defense and manage the game. Fields clearly isn’t doing a good job with making the reads, he looks incredibly confused back there.

Put a middle of the road QB in for the bears and what do you think would happen? If Jimmy G or whoever you think is the 15th best qb in the league started for the bears would it look any different than what the 32nd rank qb in the league can do?
 

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Blah, blah, blah, I have to practice harder, blah blah blah, no practice won’t help. I haven’t seen one thing field’s can do that makes him a starting QB in the nfl. He fking can’t read a defense, that’s as obvious as the nose on my face!

The offensive line is as bad as coach green thought it was!! Fourth set of coaches now and that line only got worse!! WTH?

Still no fking quality receiver!

I also don’t see any fight in the team!

Sad!

Finally, I am more convinced today that the coaches are told by management to avoid greatness!! Never do they run a successful play twice in a game! I don’t see any thought structure in a game plan. Offense continues the John Schoop offense!
The best qb in the league said he couldn’t even read a defense until after starting for 1.5 years, and he sat an entire year before that.

Your expectation isn’t realistic.
 

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The best qb in the league said he couldn’t even read a defense until after starting for 1.5 years, and he sat an entire year before that.

Your expectation isn’t realistic.

But he progressed as time went on. Did Fields progress?
 

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